Session Start: Sun Sep 26 07:30:05 1999 * Logging #GTA2_Hidden to '#gta2_hidden.log' can i ask just one little old question I'm going to upgrade my measly P60 just to play the new game :) I like to be quiet a let the necessary people have their say Aloha especially those of you fella sin the stats given the fact its like 4am :) whats it like, to see your work go global like this, it must just be...amazing.. :) Dan: I didn't receive an e-mail from you back??? hahaha just kidding i don't mind, just forget about the e-mail 5:15 no biggy Thanks for answering the questions :) *** Klamy has joined #GTA2_Hidden Sam: So Dan has to answer all the questions? *** BrianBaird has quit IRC (Timeout) *** natslovR has joined #GTA2_Hidden haha And a BIG thanks to Malby for handling this questions! Woop Exactly. *** ZYBeR has left #GTA2_Hidden well, the guys were fighting over who should answer the question ;o) ChrissyB - no problem, send me two fivers and I'll autograph one and send it back... Thanks Malby - don't know how you did it. ill stay up all night even though you decided not to give them my good quistions :( Yeah Malby, i would go MAD if i were you cheers colin ;-) Well doen to Playnow...who keep delivering the latest..! typical scot. Haha, you're all up all night, yet it's only 1:15pm in UK :) Colin, a question: Do you still have my "ram raiding" video, and does GTA2 use the Smacker codec? *** BrianBaird has joined #GTA2_Hidden wowowowow Colin!! If i send you a nice GTA2 picture, could you autograph it for me??? Brain!!! You don't want Colin to autograph it, let the REAL team autograph it :) l0l If that would be possible!!!! am i the only one who hates the demo timer? Yes, I like it! Hey Schu! ;) ah, the world will never be the same for the people of the hari-krishna :) what do you expect them to do - remove it? show some sense MatB> You are the only one question for someone: will you be able to join a multiplayer game in progress? what about dedicated servers? The timer adds to the tension, surely? i know mat i thought for sure they would realese the whole game in the demo would you think for a second damn klamy: i remember your article about demo timers ;) oh my god its the question session starting all over again... hahaha Time for Malby to take control Gary: Thats right, i reccon if the wasn't a timer you would get bored of exploring and nothing would be new Yeah, quite a few people here had ram raiding on their copies of GTA. The updated smacker is now bink - which we use. ;-) someone does then! hahaha yeah, i thinks its time we let the guys go everyone *** MatB has left #GTA2_Hidden O ANOTHER BIG QUESTION, when a gang shoots on another gang cars nothin happens, they don't step out and kill!!!! the fells from the states are probably still bleary eyed nnnnnooooooooooooooo gosh darn you guys are special! lol :) :) why no helicopter? .......... >SAM, DAn and teh DA guys thans for making this possible., Will talk to you on email later in the week., Gary, I wont forget your Tatts..! Not the helicopter again... Thanks to everyone for coming! Colin> is Bink a free to use (non-comercialy) codec? (I'm lazy, haven't checked) yeah tahnks for answering the Qs guys!! thanks guys! Thanks for having. The tatts are great. BYE and remember you guys are GREAT! You liked them then Sam? what tatts? THE TATTS!!\ awesome - gary will like them It's commercial, Klamy - Miles Design, they do a lot of sound stuff. I like tats. I iwll sed some over to DMA tomorrow.. Att GARY! i hope to work with you sometime...hehe GTA4 or something...but thats just a dream! the player is free, but the compressor.....www.radgametools.com I want tats. I want tats. I want... Are there any finger foods being served here? Go bills kill the eagles you shall have them then.. its rad as well? thought they were smacker... had to say that does anyone want a game of UT now? they do both smacker and bink.. *** nathan_west has joined #GTA2_Hidden dont need graphic designers/artists in the next so and so do you? ;) im eating some flutie flakes right now yummy Does mIRC make a log of the chat???? if you set it to only if you set it to no_fear No FEar> Only if you enable it I have it logged The log shoudl be up on Playnow tomrrow.... Right malby? * schu is listening to the GTA2 mp3... nice work... malby - can you send me a log of the entire conversation from here? Like for the last two hours...? I should hopefully have the "highlights" in tonight's GTA News :) dammit...the person who has it logged could you send it to nofear@niteshade.net??? I have a question... I heard this rumour that there'll be a London 1961 style free addon out at Christmas - don't suppose I could ask for some details? Tommorow or the next day James Gary or anyone> Is there a TEXT option for the GTA2 MP3 sounds? I can't hear it... :( Which GTA2 mp3 is that? ColinMac: Sure can *** Klamy has left #GTA2_Hidden The GTA2 Audio the GTA2 audio preview released with the demo It's the advert that Craig did... I will make sure you all get a log copy...Rockstar & DMA... i just gotta know, whats your vibe with the whole "games are making our kids violent maniac killers" bit (crap) ahem Ah... I did like the voice of the DJ bloke on that one... *** Klamy has joined #GTA2_Hidden Yes... where can i get the mp3? sorry - must be a bit slow see. gta2.com gta2.com gta2.com www.gta2.com (I hate BT Internet) cheers. Tony, how about a lyrics sheet? beat you all hahaha ditto Taxi Drivers Must DIE!!! http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net MP3 OR REAL AUDIO MP3=3.58MB REAL AUDI=600KB No, no lyrics sheet!! anyone know the email address for the GTA2 website?? DIE Taxi drivers DIE!!!! No Fear> Did you get permission to convert it to an RealPlayer format? relax i really hate gta2.com which DJ did you do a voice for Gary? Can't wait till the complete version of GTA2 arrives malby - nice one, do you have my email address? i surely don't I'm the cheesy chart countdown man... e-mail me at malby@playnow.com.au and i will get that log out to ya :) nice :) :-) Cheese. Gary> Hmm, yah lyrics sheet should be ok. gta2fans@rockstargames.com cheers big man malby. thanks dan We ought to post lyric sheets on the website. I hope that bug list is of some use to ya.. Are these "public" email addresses? can someone sort gta2.com so its navigateable? Gary> You should :) Yeah, cheers for that schu - we're working through them. I want to thank Dan Houser for taking the time to reply to our e-mails!!!! yes, thanks, schu. EhEh Noooo Colin, no problemo Klamy> Why not? MALBY., why dont you let the rest in??? No no no no lyrics, please no! I wannna muck em up! if they're using mirc they can join but if they're coming in off of the webpage, they are stuck in the one channel =\ Especially lyrics for Taxi Drivers Must Die (Uncut). lol ya let klamy do something he is bored feel sorry for the pathetic loser j/k Uncut... ok Sorry - work to do....this was fun, hope to chat to everyone again soon!!! cya colin! bye It's either that or make a video Klamy (and Gary) I am asking because I can't hear the audio as I am deaf. So, you know what it's like not beling able to hear it. And I'd like to read the sheet... cya Colin heya, whats it like in terms of resource management when you have so many separate entitiys in a game like gta? Good man Colin Bye bye dont forget my autograph col! thanks colin Thanks BYE! *** Valdez has joined #GTA2_Hidden thanks for your time et all. i'm giving away my GTA2 pack ......... just kidding =) Aha! *** DDP has joined #GTA2_Hidden *** dotdotbot has joined #GTA2_Hidden hello valdez lol Bye all - thanks for coming... hello everybody Better still, Tony, perhaps a phonetic lyric sheet so you can get the gist of the rhythm? Someone could have told me about this one! heh ..... JOIN us., /join #gta2_hidden Come talk to us ie the makers... HY BUDDY! Valdez buddy ol pal!! somebody did mention it in the other room Valdez hip hip hooray to the crew for the best driving game in a long time :) valdez it was everywhere man Yeah peeps - I'm back *** Double has joined #GTA2_Hidden Gary> Yeah.. something like it, so I can understand what it's saying? :) Where have you been V! BTW: Before everyone goes *** Sam has left #GTA2_Hidden *** WSFG has joined #GTA2_Hidden hey makers of the game, is there anything besides the silenced UZI, flamethrower and rocket launcher in the demo? GTA 2 Rocks guys - I got the demo last night Well done - ace job! schu: were abouts on gta2.com is this mp3? yes - molotov cocktails... * WSFG finally stops trying to join #gta_hidden and gets it right DDP - there are the cocktails I hope there'll be these chats more often :) The README file should tell you some of the stuff that's missing. DDP - you can get a variety of weapons from the cranes.... Thanks everyone - mail anything to that address Dan mentioned http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net MP3 OR REAL AUDIO MP3=3.58MB REAL AUDI=600KB http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net MP3 OR REAL AUDIO MP3=3.58MB REAL AUDI=600KB in the demo page at the bottom crissyb gta2fans@rockstargames.com ? yep No Fear> Did you get permission to convert it to an RealPlayer format? lol, what exactly do you do when you have a game come out and the general gamer population react to it? must be a kick and a half :) yes I got electro fingers is there anything like that? Yup. ChrissyB - mail the address there as well. gta needed spam though will do colin. cheers. *** ColinMac has left #GTA2_Hidden It's a big buzz, JimSoul. BTW: - Dan, is there a GTA2 site up for Grabs? *** Harvester has joined #GTA2_Hidden posters and other merchandise will be greatly recieved too ;-) ehhhh nope but someone asked me to do it for him so i thought i'd put it online...btw i have all the copyrights entered correctly so NO PROBLEM hey developers can you send me the non time limit demo PLEASE hey, i have a poster =) Gary> If you got the sheet, you could send it to tony@hypertony.co.uk. Thanks will there be paper maps in the game DDP: nice try what do you mean, Valdez - send me an e-mail, this chat is too confusing... Yeah there's wishful thinking yes - paper maps DDP: The time limit's there to keep you focussed... in the packaging What your address dan? so, dma folk, where did ASC go? heres to the crwe for feeling on top of the world right now, im guessing :) MY PC died 2 weeks ago - hence no SACI for a bit heh :) Yes, Harvester. arse - whats colins email? what heppened v? are there any hidden vehicles like UFOs in the game? ASC just published the US PC version... They weren't really anything to do with the game. dan is the take/2 and dma merger false? Bob V blew up! lol chrissyb> gta2fans@rockstargames.com overclocking the amd were we? *** San has joined #GTA2_Hidden tony: colins *** Mugwum has left #GTA2_Hidden not sure what's going on in tne realms of high finance. Take 2 / Rockstar picked up the rights to GTA when they bought bmg That and getting it to run with 3 video cards It went boom :( chrissyb> he said gta2fans@rockstargames.com GTA2 More Extreme: http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net Tony, I will mail the lyrics from DMA tomorrow. coolio. what you got now? But now I have a P3 450 - Huwahaha! when will the DMA web site be back online?? btw, guessing the sony may see some gta2 action? Gary> Thanks.. you are a lifesafer :) I'm getting a p7 500000000 HAHAHYA v: got a voodoo3 yesturday ;-) we care a lot Gary - if you copy me, I will get the posted on the site. yes - GTA2 will be on PLaystation... oct 22 release in the US cool Always one step ahead aren't you? When is the RockstarGames website comming online?!?!?!?!?! I'm looking forward to that site!! thanky jeff If u crush some cars in zaibatzu car crusher, you get some nice things i.e from loonie car invincibilty (havent tested it). Developers give the details Dan - Excellent work on GTA2 - it rocks! no problem will there be a 3D GTA games (as in you drive the car like in Driver) heya, being a geek type myself, how did you guys all start, as hobbyists? October 22 release in Australia as well agree with valde z i mean since rockstar is a part of take2 and dma is working so close with rockstar i thought you would know i heard on fgnonline i think usally a reliable source As soon as Dell send me my new server! Dell UK are a bunch of c%%^s Lol Dan Okey-doke, Danny Boy. I mucked about on my own & then went to Uni to get a Computer Science degree... Then joined DMA. A bunch of what ??? :) :-))))) A bunch of clarts. When is the RockstarGames website comming online?!?!?!?!?! I'm looking forward to that site!! Ah .... You guys still taking questions? :) a bunch of chips? sorry i think No_fear wants to know when the web site is coming hehehe *** chrissyb_ has joined #GTA2_Hidden sure...what's the question? what are those white clothed guys who follow each other around in the demo? are they hare krishnas or whatever? What were the factors considered when the inclusion of real-life gangs and organisations into GTA2 was decided? Was there ever any consideration that doing so may in some way offend the people associated with them? oh, and can i call my GTA2 FAQ official, it would mean a lot =) I better go now... thank you *very* much, all. well so much for that update in a couple of days at dma.co.uk its been 23 days hehehe can u still get a GOURANGA? *** FiREFLy has quit IRC (Leaving) Are u taking questions anymore as soon as I get my new server - a couple of weeks -we'll make a press release. *** James has quit IRC (Leaving) And, Gary.. thank you! :) malby: kick "chrissyb" - i got disconnected.. and i want my nick back ;-) They are a troop of Elvis impersonators DDP: We aren't convinced that a GTA a la Driver would still be GTA. But that doesn't mean that we aren't looking at 3D GTA.... I missed half the chat... Any mention of cool new things they can do in the mission scripts? *** JimSoul has quit IRC (Leaving) ..didn't you hear them? cool *** chrissyb has left #GTA2_Hidden cause they fart those elvis guys you HAVE to be abl to get out of the car for it to be GTA style game. DAN PRESS RELEASE ON MY QUISTION?????? *** chrissyb_ is now known as chrissyb Ill post the log on gouranga.com in a bit.. GTA2 More Extreme: http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net whats the hardest mission in GTA 2 if anyone is interested, my GTA2 website can be found at http://www.hypertony.co.uk/gta2 take a look! JeffCastaneda: You see that? Laters all! Gta london is too easy Schu - you still doing grandtheftauto.com as well? what was your question? Press release on the launch of the rockstar games site. could it be like loose cannon or whatever where you turn into like rainbow 6 style then get into something and be driver style umm.. things are moving real fast - what did i miss? -> *WSFG* sort of.. but Im not sure for how long.. san? No the take2 buying dma design????????? JeffCastaneda: Sorry - I'll paste again. :) *** No_Fear has left #GTA2_Hidden JeffCastaneda: I've got two questions... *** Tony_Sutton has quit IRC (Leaving) Question - Is there a possiblity of a multiplayer mode in which two or more players complete missions and gain gang respect either together or in competition? Question - What were the factors considered when the inclusion of real-life gangs and organisations into GTA2 was decided? Was there ever any consideration that doing so may in some way offend the people associated with them? tomorrow, I'll be less busy. could in GTA 3 you actually RUN a gang? Not really - they are all obvious fantasy. question- will u be able to shoot aut from the car windows ddp in gta3 you can do anything kinda early for info dont you think can you in the demo? Brian, Dan> why is GTA2 called GTA2, what happened to GBH? why not GTA:GBH? the car guns are front mounted (IE shoot straight ahead) the multiplyer modes are not mission based oh what gbh where it comes can u get a car rocket launcher or rearward firing guns? cause when u are getting chased forward guns are useless so the gangs won't be the focal point of the modes jeff you work for dma right? GBH is very much a UK term... Not sure how it would have gone down outside the UK. Gross Bodily Harm? *** Thrash- has joined #GTA2_Hidden can anyone access the Playnow website, doesn't want to work here Has anyone raised the cash to get a car mounted gun? I got it once but couldn't find the shops again. GBH only means something in the UK - you know how insular Americans are. They'd never have got GBH, although it is a great title. JeffCastaneda: But is there a possibility of implementing that - in a mod for example? I imagine that could fun. or the repect meters for that matter... Hello Grevious Bodily Harm i work for Rockstar NY actually =) grevious bodily ahrm Ahh... DDP: There's a super working water cannon on the Fire Truck now. And there's a means of attaching a flame cannon to a Fire Truck, too... like dan said can I squeeze in 1 or 2 questions? Malby - What's wrong with the website?? I knew it was something like that.. :) I missed the chat koooool anyone here work for dma? Ill post the log on gouranga.com and I think it will be on nice-one.com as well.. Dan> But don't you feel GTA2 is a cop out? I mean /2/? possibly... san... the folks at DMA have alot planned Gary can u still hijack trains? is there a boat? yeah JeffCastaneda: Alright - cool. Thanks. is there Dan: Gary? Not really, Klamy, it works as a title, and the logo is really cool. gary you work for dma? I work for DMA. Gta2 demo rocks Gary's our Creative Manager. CaMDoG1999: Yup. Sorry, director ;) with re: to the gangs... being offended - well this is all "clean" fun... hopefully the yakuza brian is this dma being bought by take2 false true or no comment i must know? nathan_west: theres a problem? Or Lardy Baldy Bloke. Malby - won't load for me thats all lemme have a look Dan> I'm finding it dificult to refer to it as GTA2, I'll call it, GTAtoo, or summat.. Will the full thing in multiplayer will it be muched improved? and are there cops in Multiplay now(an option to enable)? yes Thrash: apparently so. ok cool =) the cops are in hare krishnas, rednecks or any other gang wonlt be mad! =O ..don't you feel GTAtoo kinda goes against the whole unique game approach though? Fair enough! that for the speed? JeffCastaneda: That was mainly what I was refering too... I was wondering whether or not I should be fearful walking down the streets of Tokyo wearing a GTA2 Shirt. :) Thrash: What was it about the GTA multiplayer that was a problem? dan: will colin get me my merchandise? No idea, Camdog. A lot of places are reporting it. Doesn't mean it's true or not! ;) nathan_west: doh! looks like its down. damn damn damn well even on my lan it ran kinda slow I hope so, Chrissy. no terrible...but it was noticable cheers ;-) how many gangs u can have at time in th respect-o-meter do i get a prize for warning (oh, thats right, already have the GTA2 pack =) ) hahahaha... you shouldn't - but your cool factor should go up with that shirt on... the laidies love GTA! =) JeffCastaneda: lol deifinatly buying GTA2 when it comes out heh I mean, the game is like little else seen before and will probablu never be cloned to death - "GTA2" sounds mediocre - IMHO. 3 gangs - each with their own respect meter wish I was here to win something will there b an addon pack for GTA 2? sorry, Aussies only, and had to be here at 10 (AEST) ddp its still to early =) Klamy: We wrestled with all sorts of titles for GTA2... But "the sequel to GTA" as a tagline would have been far lamer. What time's it in the states? 7:30 am?? poor beggars GTA2 ended up sticking. Now would take/2 and dma being together would that make future gta games have more people or more resources i would thing you all under the same company would help future gta games GTA: BTN well your Gta series is a legend in my books And you have to let people know what they are buying. BTN? almost 8am CST.. I havent slept yet :) I guess its good that I woke up late yesterday .. that's right - it's to early for a sunday morning in NY!!!! =) BUY THIS NOW 5:45 over here Ahhh, hehe, of course. haha is there going to be another chat soon An anecdote if I may: Camdog: ouch. some of the people I am talking to are asking if there is a cheat to disable the timer? hehe i knew i should have come here at 10 instead of watching that stoopid brady bunch special could be, but not this early. will there b GTA 2 or 3 on the dreamcast or playstation 2? schu: That's the spirit. I can remember staying up until very early in the morning for several Unreal chats. :) Klamy queues up in EB for London 1969: EB Staffer: Double - so who is the hooker?? uh oh - gotta go. Sunday dinner calls :) i have stayed up all night playing aoe over the net "Are you over 18?" me: "Er?, er?" I'm waaaay over 18, gits. The best and worst thing about GTA is the scary number of possibilties - many of which we are looking at. I loathe EB. nathan: none of them, it sucked, only funny thing was that the old man was gay be right back *** Sven_L has left #GTA2_Hidden false adds then in the paper Is GTAtoo an 18 certificate? *** nathan_west is now known as Nathan ahh, much better GTA2's got an 18 certificate in the UK and a Teen in the US. and 15+ in Australia Make GTA: The Movie that's right Thanks for every one in DMA for making such great games THANK YOU!!!! And thank you guys, it's been lot of fun. Gotta go by now, wish I could stay. there is one.. a 9 minute short film GTA3 MUST HAVE... Going into buildings and like into peoples apartments and creating chaos do you know how much that would open up gta it would totally expand the go and do anything you want approach that gta takes c ya EB for London 1969: EB Staffer: Double - so who is the hooker?? uh oh - gotta go. Sunday dinner calls :) i have stayed up all night playing aoe over the net "Are you over 18?" me: "Er?, cya c ya oops. sorry bye schu! in GTA 3, make boats and helicopters aok will be so much better with a fuel limit wasn't schu saying goodbye to Harvester?? yup :) i believe you ca get the movie off of gta2.com I'm a beta tester for AOK bye *** Harvester has quit IRC (Leaving) cool are you leaving Brian? ah, I thought you were heading off schu! Doh ;) Shouldn't work & talk at the sametime. PLease! I am beging you...if there is away around the timer I will appreciate it! I cant live with only 6 min of GTA2! I will go Mad =) hehe also in the UK - you can get it off teh official Moving SHadow Records / GTA2 2 cd soundtrack I am a beta tester for ValveSoftware ya a fuel or gas limit would be cool and having to refill it adds realism and so much more ahhh the possibilitys of a game like gta give up. The people who made GTA2 will not tell you how to crack the demo available for purchase what ya testing Half life 2? Well in less than a month, you'll have the full game, Thrash everything yup true MUGWUM sends his love :) at least that's what he told me over ICQ but thats a long time to a gamer Dan> Will there be a port to Linux? EWWW hehe so, how hard would it be to crack the demo? Hl2 has not been officially annnounced shut up DDP ddp: absolutely impossible. no just asking DOH!!!!! DDP - very easy, that's why everyone has ............ not alot of people prolly wanna know this hehe just think how better it would of been with jared *** Dan_Houser has left #GTA2_Hidden Thrash, HalfLife2 was announced last week :) *** Dan_Houser has joined #GTA2_Hidden brian: was it? it was? I didnt hear that Where are rockstar games based anyone? Cant keep eyes open cant miss football famn testing of Tf2 should start soon NY BRB damn Rockstar is in NY in TF2 is it a whole new game or an addon? must watch bills destroy eagles ta whole new game kool Rockstar are based in New York. doesn't require HL, back to GTA2 now... is there a single player 2 TF2? like a war GTA2 is incredible, i was completely blown away (literally) the first time i played it Brian, Dan> Are DMA or Rockstar porting or handing over porting to a third party for Linux? Malby - Fixed the website yet??? No idea. DMA certainly aren't. Brian> do they know about LokiGames? dan or brian say you guys decided to start a dreamcast gta2 version approximally how long tell we would see it? Porting a non-gl game to linux would prolly not be smart at the mo'. They have ported CIV:CTP, Myth 2 and upcoming Railroad Tycoon Gold to the developers - the GTA2 demo runs a bit slow on my 'puter, but is playable at 640x480. Will you be able to turn off or tone down some of the graphics options to increase the framerate?? But Linux has native Glide support thanks to 3Dfx's proactive support of Non-MS And people with TNTs? *** Valdez has quit IRC (Timeout) Nathan: What PC specification? Klamy: yeah but under glide it only runs at 640*480 I have 20 P3 600s linked together with 20GB of RAM Yup - there is beta drivers out right now. a crappy P2-233, 32Mb RAM, Riva TNT under glide for me it runs at 1024 768 No - that's only if you have Voodoo 1 (like myself), 2, 3, Rush and others should go a lot higher DDP: hmmm... maybe something wrong with me.. i get all the res's i expect under D3D, but only one under glide (V3-3000) hmm.. my roommates voodoo2 will run it in 800*600, or at least the selection is available under glide.. Yeah my voodoo2 runs it at 800x600 ok. *** chrissyb is now known as chrissyb_ut_playing Schu can go up to 12xxxsummat silly I got 12mb voodoo SLI and it runs under glide perfectly at 1024 with GTAtoo that is.. voodoo2 I mean well my TNT2Ultra under D3D says it can, but the demo doesnt want to change the res for some reason.. Nathan: I'm stuck with a P233 and Voodoo 1 and the release build runs fast enough... I change it and it runs in 640x480 anyway... Im still trying to work out why.. Nathan. if you're having speed problems, try taking off the max frame rate limiter, switching on hte min frame rate, and switching off the lighting! I mean with a v3 cant it go up to like 2000 soemthing it runs chunky at the start, then calms down and runs OK, except when there are explosions Ah, explosions... I found that if I unclick both framerate buttons it seems to run ok... exploins are GREAT by the way to all GTA people here quake 2 explosions always slow me down I do get slow-down with explosions - mainly because I play like a maniac. Brian, Dan> What's the likelihood of there being music addon discs? additive transparency explosions - look nice, bitch to do fast in 16 bit colour tho. love the little guy who flies in the air, nice touch not sure... there's a lot of music in the game. *** Mugwum has joined #GTA2_Hidden Mah wubness returns. :) Mugwum!!! No idea, Klamy. Better asking Rockstar. yeah, rocket launcher a cop and they go MILES in the air, :o) Hey Mugwum 2 and a half hours isn't it? How has that been crunched onto a single disc? wow i have been here 5 hours dan, did you talk to the person we spoke of last night about contacting me? is it still CD audio?? first one to enter chat hehehe There are over 30 tunes in GTA2 - plus DJs and advertisments. sup schu Something like that.... Technology's wonderful :) nuthin much.. do u get road mines? out the back of your car This time around we took the approach of 'emulating' AM and FM radio... like james bind The way the radio DJs & announcements work in with the music is superb - it's not 'canned' like the first game. phun. I mean bond Yeah, DDP. There are car mines... Mugwum: In Tosh's post about NYC.GCI he messed up the second link to G!. oh yes. So the music is more compressed. Does it use some type of Mp3 compression? gary - what kind of comping do you mean? brian, do slower speed CD-roms still experience the slight pause when you step into a new vehicle? oh, and great spelling before (GTA2 - GAT2). That was funny =) *** BrianBaird has left #GTA2_Hidden san, thanks, just fixing it *** natslovR has quit IRC (gone.) *** BrianBaird has joined #GTA2_Hidden *** AddictArt has joined #GTA2_Hidden do u get boats do cross rivers? Mugwum: np. *** Jordan has joined #GTA2_Hidden I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH The music and radio blurb are wrote to the hard drive aren't they? to enable faster playback? how much space does that need? Compressed was a bad choice of term. The music is stored . DDP - I believe it was where babies come from ...as WAV files which are streamed as and when necessary and mixed 'live'... ...with the DJs and advertisements... oh yeah gary? is it really true about stalks? Jordan. gary - Oh I c thanks. Is it possible to hijack a radio station and remix the tracks live? (somehow I doubt that ;-) fixed it up san *** dotdotbot has left #GTA2_Hidden *** Nathan has left #GTA2_Hidden It is possible to blow up a radio station and kill the music. with the FBI do they come out of no where and arrest u? do u get bikes still? The bikes looked like a big hack in the first GTA funny idea about the radio station... *** Double has quit IRC (Leaving) We effectively built the radio stations into the city. Mugwum: Cool. I guess I can't kick my old habit. It stems from something we tried with Silicon Valley on N64. slow cd-roms... pauses when entering new vehicle... still happen... perhaps? *** Nathan has joined #GTA2_Hidden Mugwum: No, they don't use audio tracks so no track-repositioning-pauses. There shouldn't be any noticeable pauses this time around because of the way the music's streamed. is it just me or does GTA 2 RULE ah excellent! The ice-cream van music is taken from Body Harvest isn't it? It's not just you Malby must be fixing the website, a bit quiet my friend said that about the music ice cream van I mean The Ice-Cream Van music does indeed come from BH. We hoped that someone might notice... back Yeah.. what caused bikes to be excluded from GTA2? :) is there a limo? I loved that Q - can you drive around pretending to be a taxi-driver in the demo? I manage to pick people up, but that's about it. The ice-cream in BH is pretty creepy, is it possible to lure kids with this one? yup.. there are limos heh, i found all the cars/names, all 71 or so of them You can pick up passengers in a Taxi and earn a constant 'salary'... Nathan: You get money as long as they stay in the car. well, a friend told me 71, i didnt want to count But the passengers are likely to get out if the car gets shafted. yeah they are in the NYC.somthing file so you don't have to take them to a certain place (a nice creepy that is, kinda like really cool episode of Friday the 13th say) It's quite profitable with a 3x multiplier. 1 dollar per second in th etaxi Quarantine was such a cool game.. is it possible to actually complete a 'level' without breaking the law except for stealing the taxi initially? I was blown away by GTA2 I thought I downloaded the wrong demo when it got in...hehe We were hoping to get passenger requests implemented but, as is always the case... does the guy in the taxi run out of money eventually? you ran out of time Mugwum: at 1$ a second, a coll million would take a leetle while. it runs great on my p3-450, as for DeltaForce2 that runs horrible! wsfg: yeah, but you know, some people :) ...too many little touches mount up to too much work. MUGWUM: dull people? ..but if that $1 a minute is affected by a multiplier.. yes, totally :) ooh, $10 a second For a special reason yet to be explained the passengers never run out of money in a Taxi... klamy: your multipplier only goes up on completing missions... they're usually not legal :) I just think it's cool the guy lights a cigaret after not moving for a while gary - is feature creep a really problem then? True! changing the values for cop cars get u quick money Eek. Cigarettes. blow em up and get thousands the cigarettes are a nice touch Feature creep is always a headache - but especially with GTA. I think the guy should go to sleep and start talking in his sleep like mario 64 Is it mostly the people writing missions saying "it would be cool if..."? The cigarettes were Iain Ross - the man behind all the particle effects (among other things). yeah, there must be a shitload of stuff you want to add to the game. perhaps even enought o warrant another sequel? one thing in the demo (don't know if it is a bug or anything) - I was standing right next to a cop car door when it stopped. The cops got out, I jumped straight in, and drove off. I though that was preety cool. I like being chased by police(on foot) then stopping when they are a little behind and just toss a moltav cocktail into the air and land on them! hehe =) YEAH! NAthan I did the exact same thing as they got out I jumped in and sped off is that a bug oh wise people hehe blood will be in the final version right? heh, where is the time info stored in the GTA 2 demo files :) esoecially when the bodies come flying toward the screen Keep trying to open a Cop Car door when it's at the lights - eventually you can get in. kinda cool they get out standing right there and I drive off u can steal cop cars just press return about 5 times take offs are a bit slow now because of the gears though Will there be NUNS, that's the only question? (!) Nuns With Guns. With guitars? and yes, guns. hahaha The Nuns With Guns didn't make it, sorry to say. I like it when I car is driving by and you can grab it then open door while its still moving D'oh! I still get questions from people wanting to know why Nuns w/guns was in the feature list and not in GTA :) gary blood is in the final version right? were rather.. (GTAfree then) do the national gurad have rocket launchers? Blood... Touchy subject. if i just hang around the mob's HQ and kick the shit out of henchmen, will they just keep coming? The National Guard are scary MFs. the tanks are great you can steal them too is there any hidden weapons? I can take em :) There's a siren, the streets are cleared and before you know it... do the national guard drive tanks?hehe Is it a bug that you can drive through lamp posts, traffic lights etc ? Was it completely necissary for things like stolen cars and elvis impersonators to disappear when the player moves too far away from them? It's frustrating to see or set up something.. go looking for another car to use (or add to your big pile).. and find that everything is gone when you get back. the army does *** Harvester has joined #GTA2_Hidden *** Harvester has left #GTA2_Hidden Tanks, Jeeps (except Jeep is a TM so it's not used), APCs and troops troops troops. that reminds me. Sometimes you can drive the cop cars, and not be able to activate siren. Instead, you just get a normal horn sound. oh yeah, in the orgiginal GTA I got 2 tanks next to leach other, I can turn the turret but how do i fire? ctrl doesnt work so gary the blood hasent been decided on??? Cop Cars - A tap of the Special Button switches between horn and siren. COOL! man I need more then 6 min! so its different than the original hit tab and you can operate the sire one thing I noticed Brian, Gary> There was talk about a cheat in GTA that made one of developers names float up in the middle of the screen, is that for real? i was pressing the tab key you included way more missions then could be finished in 6min Gary, is it true that a few people got a different copy of the GTA 2 demo, A friend says he got one from Dan. Zod to be exact Klamy: absolutely, it was Billy. that scamp. Thrash-: That's why you play it more than once. :) hehe pleeeeeeeeese can i have a non time limit demo true How was that cheat activated? I never found out anymore about it. Blood or no blood the screenshots with blood look alot cooler Billy 'hid' his name in his map. The blocks were marked as air so they wouldn't come up in the regular game. You'd need an editor to see it. yeah me too DDP - sure, here it is *hands demo to DDP* haha hey can I have that too?(j/k Oh, like the mission end points message in SA? DDP: Try entering your name as NOTIMER on the front end... oh, and forgot the free virus --> Why do people want to ban GTA, look at most 15 certificate films are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more violent than any game and no one goes aroun mimicking them BrianBird: There was code in the mission.ini to show it. You had to visit about 16 different places in order. I have no name enter thing ah. :) exactly ddp or VC even is it possible to jam the timer using one of those game hacking utilities? it doesnt let you change yourname nope Bah. That must have come out at the last minute then. Thrash - thats the whole idea front end as in c:\gta -notimer no cheats in the demo either Gary, is it true that a few people got a different copy of the GTA 2 demo, A friend says he got one from Dan. if there can be "pulp fiction" for the movie screens - there can be gta2 for the computer screens is there any cheats secerts that are really cool that we havent figured out yet dan or gary *** chrissyb_ut_playing has left #GTA2_Hidden Was that story about the ram raiders taking a load of GTA games from a warehouse for real? Jordan: That's got me confused. As far as I'm aware there's only one GTA2 'playable preview'. on gta Klamy. For real, incredibly. * DDP says, GTA, oh yeah in his sleep ..EDGE didn't think so, and they'll believe /anything/! is anyone keeping a log of this discussion?? I have to go soon. yup. Im logging it.. Why is it that you can drive through lamp post and trafiic lights etc ? yes, schu is thanks schu I'd imagine it would make the game areal pain.. ..too keep on hitting lamp posts its much better being able to drive through lamp posts i'll let schu post the log up, no point in just mirroring the same old thing I missed the very beginning though.. grr.. I got most of it though.. true, but it wasn't so in original one AddictArt: Because playability always comes first and crashing into lampposts etc got annoying. might as well post it.. its just a txt file.. can you burn down trees? Also true Gary ;-) hey, the Playnow website is back up everyone Mugwum: I love this sence of community. :) :) well, tosh got gta2_questions and gta2_answers logged but not this one. You know.. back in my day... Yeah, drivibng under trees throught lanmposts is nice. The car automatically aligns to the roads (or NSEW at least) too which helps a lot. San: All this were green fields... I just logged em all.. didnt see any point in not logging em.. heheh :) it's weird san, i'm actually pretty depressed about some personal stuff, but yeah, this community spirit thang is enticing. might as well post it.. its just a txt file..........(Thrash)-Whats this? the chat log is just a txt file.. the log ok what was that notimer front end thing gary? Mugwum: You are? I'm sorry to hear that. I'm please to see there's a lot of friendship in the GTA community though. I wanan see what I missed You got different time of day setting in full version... will you also have stuff like rain, snow, etc ? DDP: A little white lie. pleased someone is going to hack that timer sooner or later heh san, it's always been like this - much closer knit. however, for a game which carries a very strict 18+ only rating (in this country at least) it's surprising how many 12 year olds there are :) lol DDP: Inevitable. IVE JUST MADE A TIME CRACK FOR GTA 2!!!!!! They'll always be the m0s and the kiddies I guess. :) how come when I alt tab out of it (to chat here) then I alt tab back it freezes The demo timer was never hacked 'properly' in the first game, DDP. sure u have heh, just kidding, just wanted to get eveerybodies reactions what do you mean by properly Brian People just copied the exe file from the full game rather than 'crack' it. I'VE JUST COME UP WITH AN ILLABORATE PLAN TO INFECT ALL YOUR COMPUTERS WITH BACKORRAFICE! I got opening text to change though..... didn't you win the signed copy San?? * WSFG pokes san in the eye with a stick labelled "better than back orifice" Err... don't mind my spelling. Gary, Dan, Brian> Does it disapoint you that the demographic for GTA isn't higher? afterall this isn't Croc.. Nathan: Yes. can i have it =) * DDP turns your elaborate plan sideways and sticks it straight up your elaborate ass (San> good luck, I run Linux, no way would that get cracked by Back Orrifice ;-) Croc rules... sorry, it has to be said mario 64 rules more than croc (and yes I have croc as well) Nathan: Maybe you'll see it on eBay.. but I doubt it. It's the best thing I've ever won, and I love GTA2.. so I think I'll be holding onto this one - sorry. or Crash Bandicoot then if you prefer ;-) i'll give you my GTA2 tattoo for it and my poster *** JeffCastaneda has left #GTA2_Hidden maybe the t-shirt are you still alive Malby?? schu got me an ASC games poster, even though i was always evil to their company reps. Klamy: It's all about trade-offs I guess. :) well I just won DMA, theyre gonna send me theyre headquarters in the mail *** JeffCastaneda has joined #GTA2_Hidden heheh *** chrissyb_ut_playing has joined #GTA2_Hidden punky skunk - was my personal fave BYE BYE EVERYBODY!!!!!! Cya cya ddp cya ddp bye, have fun finding the crack, not bloody hell - still going ;-) Cya DDP *** chrissyb_ut_playing is now known as chrissyb Something I got to know: Is there ever going to be a 3D version of GTA ? the people that won copys do they get em now? No chance, Thrash :) hey everyone, if u want the crack, just press alt f4 right now to freeze the timer or on the 22nd bye didn't dma create a 3d version of gta to show the publishers how the idea wouldn't work? cya AddictArt: What kind of 3D version? First-person? Hey, Malby must be dead, lets start swearing ---> fart Yeah Hey gray, on the note that addictart has just posted - 'cause gta2 uses d3d have you tried any new camera angles? alt-f4? gary even.. sorry. *** DDP has left #GTA2_Hidden heh yup.. use the Alt+F4 crack ;) Thrash-: He's kidding. *** DDP has joined #GTA2_Hidden No that's ctrl-alt-del Schu! Glide users - press ctrl+f9 to stop the timer. Did anyone watch Akira on SBS last night? wait a second, how long will this room b up for? hahaha l0l - does that actually work? The reset button works as well *** Thrash- has left #GTA2_Hidden oh sorry. :)... I suppose you could also use the Alt+ESC crack.. ;-) We firmly believe that the distance between the player and the 'toy set' is a strength... wsfg: what does ctrl-f9 do to glide cards? It allows players to see what's going on around them, which is critical in an environment... Obviously there's no Aussies left. :) *** Thrash- has joined #GTA2_Hidden Gary> Which publisher was it that asked to see GTA running in 3D? ...which encourages compound interaction. or the marajuana crack. slows the timer down you see. I'm an Aussie, i won a pack remember True, but a first person view when driving would be cool... Mugwum: It switches back to your main display, is the boring truth. only works using glide (not appss using a 3dfx card in d3d mode) k, it''d have been gremlin? oh, the SBS think, OK Nathan: But you didn't watch SBS last night? (so as I can avoid their lame games ;-) That said, we are messing around with all sorts of possibilities... :) no no no, for the timer crack you have to take a sledge hammer, beat the crap out of your PC, then flush it down the toilet and your GTAT2 demo will be cracked wsfg: didn't know that :) no, I only watch SBS for South Park What is the left alt key for in GTA2.. isnt it the 2nd special key? will it do anything "special" in the game.. alt+arrows move the camera around I think.. when i remmember Mugwum: It's useful when things crash too. but will it do anything else? Nathan: Ahh ok. They're great for Anime stuff. wsfg: thanks for the tip. everyone try my crack it works i keep getting this error message on my computer saying " 14Cannot find the file 'C:\PROGRA~1\GTA2DE~1\DATA\WILDEMO\WIL_YE1.SCR'. Make sure that the file exists on your system and that the path and filenames are correct." it comes up like every 2 min. or so when I don't press anything. when I exit UT - sometimes it locks my system... any ideas? schu: it will switch between horn and siren on police vehicles The second Special Button was a feature we tried but never exploited. It was easier to leave it in that chop it out. i saw one once, all it was was a still picture, with narration, then the pic would change, and more narraction. Pretty crud chrissy, if you're not l33t enough, sometimes UT notices :) see ya Thanks by again *** DDP has left #GTA2_Hidden mug: i rock mate i'll bear that in mind :) And then there were 16 * San pulls out the drum kit * WSFG Goes for the throat i think its got something to do with when it switches from the 3d rendering to windoze stylee oh * schu needs to stop this GTA2 Mp3.. Ive heard Jesus My Savior, My Favorite Flavor about a hundred times.. maybe, i tried doing it once and nothing happened chrissyb: Email Epic. I've heard of that problem before, but with Unreal not UT. okay, serious question again - do rockstar/dma object to gta2 sites posting addons for the demo (not as in timer cracks, but things like speeded up vehicles and such) ? yup. there it is again.. chrissy: utbugs@epicgames.com oh yeah - cheers schu, i forgot i downloaded that mp3 ;-) Schu> put on the Benzoate remix ;-) I'm off in a mo. Thanks for the questions. I'm sure Brian (DMA) and Danny Boy (Rockstar) can answer anything else... cheers mugs cya gaz Q - Will you release a patch for GTA2 if required, with relation to your stance with no patch for GTA? www.gtaplus.net/whatasite/ Thanks for sticking around Gary :) you rock gary. Another Q - How many churches (save places) will there be?? Bye Gary ;) bye gary Thanks for coming Gary. thnx for answering Take care. Bye Dan seeya Gary ta ta we don't abject to it... it's a copmpliment to us to have people care about the game enough to I lost your mail address !(remember the chat we were going to set up) do something like that.. just shows us how many people love GTA2 & GTA Um, I don't know the official stance on 'updates' & add-ons by other people, but I know that the people here on the team really like them. As long as they don't go 'break' things, they're good. They increase interest in the game. How do PSX sales tend to compare to PC sales or a game like GTA or GTA@? 2 Oh - and Jeff, of course. (Sorry, Jeff, I didn't realise you were still here.) BFN. *** Gary has left #GTA2_Hidden thanx gary And it's a huge compliment that people are willing to take the time & energy to expand on our game. Too many capitals San?? oh god bti is slow... Nathan: Yeah. :) good stance brian :) 1 save point per level, but you can use it just about as often as you like. ;) thanks how many codes are there for GTA2? 845, last count this jesus song is nice schu ;-) heh.. I prefer Taxi Drivers Must Die myself :) Is it possible to blow up the church's? hang on 846 with the remarkable install base of owners for the PlayStation - GTA has sold more on the playstation What info can we have on how to disable that time limit ? (I will never use the save game feature..) lol - that jonny ad is smart ;-) No klamy ;) Q - Was the Director's Cut pack ever released outside the US?? there it is again :) this mp3 isnt nearly long enough :) JeffCastaneda: Fair enough. Just about everyone I know who has a PC has a PSX, including me. director's cut was released in the uk OZ?? What are the GTA team's feelings towards the PSX2? when is the DMA and Rockstar sites going to open? or PS2 true - in the US - 1 out of every 5 homes own a PLayStation yow.. San - Isn't that the mouse adapter thing There's been no mention about the packaging and the artists responsible - I take it it isn't DR? (and I soo wanted to desecrate a church ;-) at $99 you cant beat it.. I guess I should get one :) what a PSX? yeah man! =) PSX = Playstation JeffCastaneda: I think Sony have sold 2 million here in Australia. Australia's population is 18 million... so that's what? One for every nine people in the country? PSX is a playstation i know nathan i meant was schu intending on buying one PSX2 is woahhhh.... But I'm quite happy with my shiny new Dreamcast right now :) www.psx2online.com wow - really? impressive www.playstation2.com Chrissyb - oh, sorry should think so ;-) sorry chrissy.. =) BrianBaird: I wouldn't mind one myself. :) take that *long range slap* same here.. * chrissyb slaps Nathan around a bit with a large trout I might not get an answer, but am I right that that timer is set in the SCR file ? * Jordan slaps chrissyb around a bit with a large trout *throws chrissyb down the AGGTA well* I think I'll wait for the PS2 though - unless Square starts making RPGs for the Dreamcast. i hate psx's If I were rockstar and didn't want anyone hacking the time limit I would have hardcoded it into the game C'mon, Addict. We can't answer questions like that. I What I thought ;-) The SCR files are the replacement for the old mission.ini files. chrissyb: For what they cost - they are brilliant. They make modern gaming available to the masses. hey, he tried :) I figured that much... san: mmm, but you seen gta on it! Are the SCR files compiled? tokenised? encrypted? KRAZ Radio :) I really have to stop this thing. Nearly midnight over here, daylight overseas?? i just woke up 3.45 pm here yup.. the sun came up.. its 8:45am central.. here its 8:34 Have to love being ahead of everyone else, except those damn NZs schu: You dead on the keyboard yet? nope :) what state you in schu? BrianBaird: Do you suspect that someone will eventually find a way around the demo time limit? For the Carmageddon 2 demo it was a joke (delete an empty, 0 byte file called 'demo.txt' and the time limit was gone), and as a result I played the demo until I no longer felt the need to buy the game itself. It would be a real shame if that happened to GTA2. I think schu is half-dead, half-alive by my guessing woke up really, really late yesterday so Im still awake.. but I dont think I should try standing up.. oh, state, i get ya I hope not, San. The longer it stays uncracked, the better. Im in Missouri, otherwise known as Misery.. BrianBaird: Agreed. you'd be an idiot if you let a hacked version of the demo satisfy you and stop you playing the real game. but a lot of the features in GTA2 arnt in the demo Yeah exactly I miss the army definitly.. i used to run this site which kept a log of everybody's name and email address who had emailed me requesting the warez version of gta which is why everone should buy the game! =) There's soooo much in the game that just *isn't* in the demo. i have to go and update the GTA2 FAQ, seeya everyone its not fun unless you have everybody on your ass chasing you with guns Addict - get the full game! national guard - is that the same as the army? San: SCi did that on purpose I think. Their publishers prolly wanted a time limit but they didn't. So they put a stupidly-easy-to-remove timer in. i'll buy the game whatever. even if i get sent a copy i'll probably buy one Believe me, I will ;-) cya nathan Id buy GTA2 for the soundtrack alone... that being said.. will Moving Shadow be releasing the sound track to GTA2? Dan_Houser: For GTA2 that's no so much of a problem - because they did not include all of the functionality in the demo. However, for Carmageddon 2 it was a disaster because the demo, once the time limit was removed, basically featured everything that came with the full product. i wont buy one... i'll have to get my dad to get it ;-) erm, bye WSFG you were going, right nathan? *jumps up in crowd* seeya GTA2 guys c ya Nathan.. WSFG - sure am cya Yeah, they should be schu. *shameless plug* Don't forget the GTA2 FAQ - http://www.rocknet.net.au/~nwest so I can listen to in my car? WSFG: It certainly makes you think. You're probably right. schu - the soundtrack is available in the uk ... a 2 cd set howcome everbody that is walking around on the street is an elvis emporsinator? schu: If you can't buy it in the US I'll nab you a copy. Later Nathan including DJ's and breakers? or just the music? which also features the GTA2 movie *** Nathan has left #GTA2_Hidden Thanks :) The Elvis guys are very funny. oooh, quake3 is finally home it's available in the us at virgin megastores and HMV *** No_Fear has joined #GTA2_Hidden yeah, but thats a little weird that everybody sound like him... why? hey you people are still here, thought you all left :-) Hi then and i saw in a screen that elves was on teh side of a building. hey.. Brian: I've been looking at shots of the electro-kill-everyone gun and while it looks splendid, I can't figure out how it works - does it hone in on the nearest killable object in range when you fire it? whats this elvis thing? Hiya Schu Did i miss anything? not too much.. The electroshock 'conducts' through the nearest people or cars.... And Dan's still here too they just gave us all free copies of GTA2 while you were gone ;) one of the rednecks thinks they arte elvis, like half the american population. oh oke heh :) Thats neat Dan Nice. I thought that might be something like that. Q you can answer, why 6 minutes ? Why not 5 or 10, but 6 ? *** chrissyb is now known as chrissyb_playing_q3 why not? dan, i lost your mail address (remember we were going to set up that chat) Is it still possible to "motor surf"? you know if you line up a bunch of motors, jump over one and surf along them all? we only gave you five last time, so you're 20% better off... Well, just looks such odd number... yes I like the 6 mins. Because like i said earlyer, if there wasn't a time limit you would get bored very fast klamy: Yes, and the cops can do it too. i don't think so no_fear... you'd run out of things to do - this isn't an option in the full game. there's a lot of game to play... Naw it wouldn't get bored but still...this keeps you focused The cops seem a lot more inteligent this time round, do they have any weaknesses (note I don't wanna know though!) true... ? just go back and keep on playing it =) I generally just camp by the starting location and see how many cops I can get the screen without getting caught :) running back for health, armor, and ammo when necessary :) not weaknesses, but they get more intense as the game progresses... the cop AI has been significantly you have to use tricks you've seen in the movies... definitely more aggressive Dan, i asked this earlyer but i didn't got a reply because you were too busy. When a gang shoots on another cars gang the gang doesn't step out of the car and starts shooting, they just drive such as the classic.. so you have to bve real creative when tryoing to escape them Have you all found the two other sets of phones that have missions? The cops can actually work out how to get around obstacles now... much better. There are lots of phones let the cop car stop, wait for the copper to get out of the car, then drive away fast (this doesn't work well with the army, or if there's 5 cop cars) Did you guys play with a replay idea - like Driver, or a Jackie Chan movie? Yup I did ;-) Iain's done a LOT of good things with the Police AI - wait till you see the other levels ;) how many kill frenzies are in the demo? the cops will try to cut you off and block you in... mugwum you slapper - who do i cry to when quake3 don't install? extremely intelligent shu: 7 I've found two, maybe seen a third... 7?? Jesus My Savior, My Favorite Flavor.. same here.. Press F6, will pause about 2 or 3.. heh Says there are 7 K.F. ahh.. I paused it but I didnt bother reading it.. Are there any stunt bonuses...or sort of bonuses? *** chrissyb_playing_q3 is now known as chrissyb thats on the audoi thingy right? I got an Accuracy Bonus.. i did too I think there are stunt bonuses Who didn't ;-) Yeah i got one too Yeah, no fear :) I got another I cant recall off hand.. In the demo? I once got insane stunt bonus in the demo? yes Yep nice.. For driving a SCHMIDT down the train tracks ;-) are there only the flam thrower and the rocket L. in the demo as kill frenzys? heh O i have found a big bug in the demo the rocke l KICKS! schu: I only ever found 3 Kill Frenzies. same here.. ive found 3 too Ill have to look around some more I guess.. Yep, you can get things like 'insanse stunt bonus', 'medical emergency bonus', there are good few more that are hidden away.... I think there's a couple of machine gun bonuses... When you are at the train station and you walk into the tunnel of the track you can't walk any further..BUT if you press SPACE all the time you will go under the map. You can walk Anywhere you want How come the medics try to bring people back to life after you have toasted them with the flame thrower? kill frenzies I mean. there should be 1 more minute of time to the time limit to make 7, I usually find myself doing something cool when the time runs out The rocket laucher behind the building.. the flame thrower on the steps in the big courtyard and the molatov cocktails on top of the building. becasue thats theyr jobs :) I really like the addition of the health system.. Much nicer than the 1 shot and your dead system.. a lot more challenging fighting cops that can take mutiple shots too.. I know 2 flame throwers and one I never tried ;-) Jordan: Yeah, but they're skeletons. Hardly an easy job... How'd you do that, no_fear? You should get electrocuted! What triggers the medical emergency? I got it once but I've never been able to again. :) the medics will try to bring back many of the pedestrians after t hey've been killed via weapons or run over No i didn't oh :) *** ColinMac has joined #GTA2_Hidden Brian : nope, I;ve been under the map as well - driving a car up the tracks. Same here i dont they bring back the skeleton people do they? its really weird, i saw other people get electrocuted but i could walk underneath the map under the map Sorry guys, I'm back.... the medics work just like real life... they're just doing their job =) Welcome back, Colin! how many cars are in GTA2? around 71? colin: where do i send my request to? I didn't tried it with a car, but when you walk you can jump by pressing space so everytime you press space you will go further underneath the map Is it me or can the cops of the road blocks take more bullits then normal cops ? AddictArt: They are standing behind those barriers... IIRC I drove up the tracks and got stuck. Then I was able to get out of the car, but I couldn't walk. Pressing space and a direction let me move around tho. Thats right WSFG No, they come wlking to you, then I fire ChrissyB - send it to Dan at gta2fans@rockstargames.com and he'll make sure it gets passed on.... the best thing to do when being chased by cops is to run backwards heh yeah run backwards and shoot I prefer blowing their car up with a molatov cocktail before they even get out :) thanks again colin Can they be rammed into the drink still? pas de probleme. i take 1 minute out of the 6 min to load up on those cocktail tingys then run backwards with my machine gun and those those cocktails and thow them on those vans with those army people before they even get out of the car I'm just a pro :) heh obviosuly sp Those SWAT vans take 2 molotov's Ahhh. Willy's just fixed the bug with train tunnels :) i just start chucking about 10 of them Darn hehe. Instant feedback. Hey thats great BrianBaird!! Willy? Billy? Porter Willy is the level designer of the Downtown level. who did the graphics? Willy's the designer in charge of the first map + scripts. how many people are working GTA2 development? and what did that Ivan or Ian guy do? i saw him in the credits how many people are working on GTA2's development rather.. in DMA, about 30!! as the lead graphic person I got another question: when looking at the properties of the GTA2 manager it says that the previous name was fingerbob.exe ? 30??? Wowy whats in 30 min.? 30 people (working on gta 2) heh. no.. 30 ppl working on GTA2 at DMA Most of them have just been on recently, as the team started out as 6, but with the audio guys, test, text etc etc, the numbers have been bumped up...! *** Thrash- has quit IRC (Leaving) But if you look at the credits, you'll see theres a ton of people round the world also helping out.... It's a big game! Its a HUUUGE game! heh, need an another man? (me) :) Is that all in the Dundee hq, or are they working on it at the new offices? Hey, this is a long shot but what's the format of the PPAL/TILE chunks in the .STY file? I'm not exactly sure how the sotry structure for GTA2 will work - is it possible to stay loyal to the same gang throughout the game? Hey Dan, your quite yup, just Dundee - the Edinburgh office are working on other things...! Is it possible to wipe out a gang ? was it Dan or Collin who i was supposed to schedual that chat with? Can't tell you that sort of thing yet, WSFG.... Wait till the game's out! The problem is... we can't wait Yup, it's possible to just work for the Zaibatsu through the game - although bear in mind it's also possible (theoretically) to complete the game without working for any gangs.... Oh well, worth a try. bloody custom rgba paletizzed twenty four bit mumble....grr..arg Brian, did you use a modified version of Jeff Mathews GTA Cars program to help create GTA2? ColinMac: Ok great. Just Zaibatsu though? yeah, if so, can you like release it? Jordan, I think I was supposed to get back to you, or you to mail me - next week sometime? *** AddictArt is now known as Addict Nope, Mugwum. I think the guys who did GTA London might have used it. i lost your mail add. Speaking of other projects, there wasn't a big reaction to BH (a great game), and after the protracted dev time, how annoying was/is that? Yup, Zaibatsu are the only gang that appear in every level....it's all part of the story....! Yes it was mentioned in the credits of gta london. ColinMac: Sounds great. :) Anything sent to gta@dma.co.uk will get to me... Hey Brian, is there a difference between the power of each gang? I mean, is the Zaibatsu the most powerfull gang in the game? Because in the demo i get the idea every gang is the same ok Brian, yeah, it was in the credits for the pack, which made me wonder... * Addict will be right back We've not used it at DMA, we have our own various tools. no_fear... you're right...The gang's are all roughly the same in terms of power when is the DMA/ROCKSTAR sites going to open? is that going to change in the full version, it would be nicer...maybe the size of the gang or the guns of the gangs It looks like the levels are quite a bit more flexible this time - have you taken off the 255x255x6 limit on the maps? I never stopped to count, but it looked that way... Right, will those tools ever see release? the rockstar site will open shortly... hold tight... =) I think the tools are the heart of the game! make sure the rockstar site is better than gta2.com Jeff> Do you have a exact date when the site will be opened? The GTA2.com site is sooo nice, lots of style! i check those 2 sites every day and am getting tire of it whne over at take 2 a saw "rockstar site opening soon!" as of yet... no.. but in the meantime check out www.take2games.com No idea, Mugwum.... It'll be hard to do missions without the script compiler.... gta2.com is an arse to navigate I will, daily :-) I already found out that :-(((( Think it's a possibility then Brian? we're trying Chrissy B =) Upto Take2. *I* certainly want the compiler to come out, once the game's released. There was talk of the GTA site becoming a community get together - with resources and such.. Believe me, you're not the only one ;-) Yeah that would be really great to have new missions. ..is that still happening? yes, Klamy. you should put all of the GTA utilities like on a CD or something. I would buy it :) We alreadyy link to all the main fan sites - send me any other links. Dan, are there any plans of daily news updates? Or just weekly updates? Or you don't know? :-) It's down to Take2 to release the compiler/editor etc - but I'd imagine they'll release them when the time is right.... dan: i think mouse would like a link ;-) Dan...have you seen GTA2 More Extreme??? www.niteshade.net/gta is now www.gtaplus.net What Chrissy B? thats my site Dan> one for the links sprayshop.gouranga.com ;-) gtaxtreme.net/squish its alredy listed squishy d? :) Brian, do you think someone with enough time and such might be able to recreate the sorts of tools you have been using? Dan...have you seen GTA2 More Extreme??? *** Sven_L has joined #GTA2_Hidden what's the link no fear? I'm stunned you haven't seen the site :-)) its http://gtaextreme.niteshade.net STUNNED? "Respect Is Everything" Mugwum: GXt format is easy GNI also its a DAILY updated news site, with exclusive news and well i think i can say its the best GTA2 site um, gouranga anyone? And if it was someone else its site i would say the same thing or G!... If anybody's remotely interested, I've formatted the q&a from the chat and they'll come out in tonight's GTA News. Elvis has left the bluilding of course you can say that, because it's your site Scripts will be *very* hard to beat without knowing the various structures etc...:-/ thanks sven thats right Dan...hehe i don't count sven, which site do you run? I don't at the minute But i do have daily updates :-) I'm rebuilding GTA Lair I like lots of the fan sites At the mo, I just edit the GTA News argh i hate exagerating about myself nice... GTA Lair was quite nice.. Thx schu Brian, I believe... all I found so far is how to change the opening text :-( the new design of GTA Plus is at www.gtaplus.net/whatasite, check it out everybody I've made it better, and I can update it more frequently now gouranga & g! are great g! is a great site Thanks :) GTA2 More Extreme is based on the GTA2 Promotion Movie BrianBaird: Someone would work out some of it I'm sure. (But probably not all of it) Adam, I've writeen a short bit in tonight's newsletter about your new GTA2 sites yes it is, but schu, why are you running 2 gta sites? course CBHOG owns the scene ;-) -> *jordan* Im not sure how much longer that will be happening... Brian, could someone at DMA write a mission template as with GTA? I think G! is the best GTA site out there, because Schu's put a lot of time and effort into it. Brain, since the script is compiled, what is the source written in ? Definitely G! is great No_Fear: Tip: Don't have heaps of question screens before a news page - the news must be on the first page! :) I don't get what you mean Mugwum. GBHscript, Addict :) The intro of GTA2 More Extreme is neat, but its too big and i need to work on it to make the file little less big Now I know a lot... GBHscript!!? guessing it's the script used for gta2... San> i thought about that...but then i thought, its just an intro..people can bookmark the last page Bugger, I only know C++ :) Well, when GTA was released there was the mission editing template whereby someone could download this text file and read about how missions were structured and stuff, then base their misisons off of that template. Yeah, I've still got that. Dead useful. Dan, I hear Rich has been emailing you a lot lately? is GTA2 in mulitplayer good? excellent! lots of fun... Schu's got the talent because he's being doing this stuff successfully for so long. That's why his site stands out. I could put twice the time into mine that he does into his and still not be a patch on it. Can you tell me what you think of my site Dan, or Jeff?? thanks.. but Ive always been impressed with your sites Mugwum.. definitly envious of your photoshop skills :) from waht i've seen initally - it looks great I don't have photoshop schu :) Yeah, there's a document detailing the commands / layout etc. That's what our designers use right now :) Thanks Jeff, how about the content in the site?? So do you guys spent a lot of time on the net looking at fan sites then? most definitely... sven... we want to make sure we know what the fans think o fthe game I especialy like my Movie Info section. Brian: And will that ever be released or would it be useless without the compiling tools? no fear - give us some time to check out the content ... i just checked it out 5 minutes ago but we will check it out more deeply.. =) schu, it comes down to a userbase - with grandtheftauto.com you built up a huge audience, which repeat-visited - i fucked around so much that many wouldn't bother returning. Useless without the tools. If/when we release the compiler, it'll be with it don't you worry hahaha thats oke Jeff..sorry :+) i'm glad your looking at it. I've heard lots of good things about the site ccol that's great, thanks :) Does anybody here want the GTA News? I've got plenty of copies :) i would love it to have your deepest opinion :-) i mean .. cool! =P Nothing to do with GTA2, do you guys also play other games ? I know a few people here get it hehe dan and i will check it out dunno if this has been answered: less laggy multiplayer? Thank you so much...wow you know i really feel onered somehow Cool Jeff, I've got dan's email but not yours - where do you want it I find that most people are surprised to get an email back so Ive tried to answer most all the email that is sent my way.. but its pretty hard when loads of email comes in... yeah, i know what you mean. i tend to try and answer, but i have a lot of email spanning a lot of websites, so it's hard I was really looking for a nice design to make for my GTA2 site...and i watched the Promotion movie over and over and i didn't know what to design. Then i thought the intro would be nice. -> *mugwum* what do you use for image editing? dan & I can access the same e-mail address - send it there =) i got like 0398423089 mails asking me to crack the time limit. thanks sven Jeff, is it the gta2fans adres? {Wellard} 1 {model} 0 {turbo} 50 {value} 0 {pad} f14.500 {mass} f1.000 {front drive bias} f0.550 {front mass bias} f2.000 {brake friction} f0.650 {turn in} f0.350 {turn ratio} f1.500 {rear end stability} f0.250 {handbrake slide value} f0.220 {thrust} f0.380 {max_speed} f1.000 {anti strength} f0.139 {skid threshhold} f0.500 {gear1 multiplier} f0.650 {gear2 multiplier} f1.000 {gear3 multiplier} f0.125 {gear2 speed} f0.228 {gear3 speed} okay, it's in HTML format yes... sorry whoa... oke, maybe i'll contact you some day cool Whats so Whoa...and...cool ? :-) what does grear 1,2,&3 multiplier do? well, if we're plugging our own websites ostensibly to DMA and Rockstar, then I might as well ask what you all think of mine. It's at www.3dactionplanet.com/gta gear efficiency (size 8)(9) 0.800000,0.000000,0.900000,0.950000,0.950000,0.950000,0.000000,0.000000 I think that's the same Jordan oh. Only this was taken from NFS:HS car performance excellent mugwum O btw. I'm getting lots of e-mails from GTA2 fans that have problems or questions, i can answer them all but i have this question from someone that asks me why the demo runs slow at sertain moments. He has got a really fast paced computer (PIII 450 i think) with 3Dfx and all. And well.. i said he should try closing some aplications that are running in the task bar but that didn't help either, do you know maybe? howcome I cant get GTA 2 to play in a window? thanks jeff :) does it run slow all the time? as if its lagging? that is the problem I had and I sort of found a workaround... it would either run wayy to fast or too slow.. jordan> Maybe its because of the 3Dfx. If you didn't have 3Dfx it can run in a window...but i'm not sure no prob... i'm clicking thru your site right now... pretty slick quick question to anyone: know anyone that'll host a cgi-bin for free? prohosting.com hehe Sven i was thinking of the same adres :-) sven: free? :) yup my site is kinda messed because VRCool usd some weird editor and it messed up some of the html. its messed up one every SINGLE page too I've got an account cool. cheers. jeff: i don't have as much time to dedicate to it as i'd like, but i try with whati can Dan, what is the part of Gathering of Developers in GTA2?? G.O.D has nothing to do with GTA2 err - you sure its free? yes. They haven't charged me for it Mugwum ... still very cool - with what you've got there! Try free.prohosting.com k Mugwum: How many GSN sites are you directly contributing to at the moment? I thought GOD was publishing the PC version in the states.. or has that changed? well jeff, i'd like it to be better, but i havn't got any contacts other than Dan thats strange.... i really read that somewhere Jeff me too i thought it was publishing the PC version of GTA2 too san: i run 3dactionplanet, will run planetsoldieroffortune, news at planetunreal, planetblood and i contribute to planetquake and another upcoming gamespy project which i can't talk about. and i've been checking the god website for info Mugwum: Ok. i know that some of teh US gaming sites have been getting that info wrong and listing GOD as the developer and / or publisher and but it's false ok so they arent even publishing? they actually had news about GTA2 on their site at one point.. hmmm strange, i will change that info on my site as soon as possible Take 2 / Rockstar is the Publisher sven: cheers tha worked for both PC, PLaystation and color Game Boy yeah and i though G.O.D too cookl cool even and DMA is the deveoper for PC and PSX Playstation too? oke thanks sure What ever happened with the partnership with Epic Megagames? Playstation version is looking & playing *great* - wayyyy better than the first one. We're still friendly with Epic - Mark Rein was over a few weeks ago. There was talk about the engine being licensed (I think). Did you get your graphics convertion PC>PSX sorted out then? this chat really clears things up Yep ;) Great playstation version is definitely looking amazing super Dave (Jones) was really quite hyped about it all, but nothing seems to have come out of it. Yep to the graphics question. alot smoother looking and playing Is that so? Playstation is playing better than the PC version? Just out of curiosity are the playstation and pc version sharing the same data or are you "making the game twice" as it were? well, not quite no fear.. ahh.. now I remember.. GOD published GTA London in the states.. is that right? not GTA2.. Things are 'tweaked' for the Playstation version.... The scripts are slightly different, as are the maps... But not by much!! Schu > That sounds about right When i saw the Playstation screenshots for the first time i was really amazed are there no lighting affects in the PSX version or is it just that they changed the time to noon in the screens i saw at ign? The PC version is simply beautiful because of 3d accelerartion and all Oh I see tnx. BrianBaird: Do you work for Take2? The PSX version does have Lighting effects but arent more beatifull as the PC The orginal was ported to PSX by the people that made Lemmings Paintball, this one is being done in-house? but the psx version still looks pretty hot... Are you a fan of the PSX jeff? sure... hehe i'm a PC fan...but i after seeing the shots of the PSX version...well i was amazed so i was wondering if the gameplay was the same as the PC version the game looks and plays optimally for what the processing power of the PSX can handle the PC and PSX versions are very close great for those who have a PSX :-) well i bet its much finer to play GTA2/GTA with a controller than a keyboard *** Mugwum is now known as Mug_away keyboard is better :) back in 20 I eventually got really good with a keyboard in GTA That really means you have done a great job on the PSX version Ok.. found it.. here is where I got the stuff on GOD publishing GTA2 in the states... one of the sources anyway.. http://www.cdmag.com/Home/home.html?article=/articles/020/101/god.html had to look through the archives.. hmm interesting Schu *** Dan_Houser has left #GTA2_Hidden :( hey i have to go now everyone. It was really nice chatting with you Dan/Jeff/colin/Schu and everyone else, so good bye Doesn't he like us? cya no_fear bye! c ya no_fear Bye bye NF! cya nf if you REALLY have skills - you can play both with a controller or a gamepad thanks for checking out my site Jeff, i hope to get an e-mail from you saying what you like about GTA2 More Extreme Oh i forgot you Klamy :-) BYE KLAMY! i dont have GTA for PSX heh *** CaMDoG1999 has quit IRC (Timeout) dan loves you guys... he may be back soon Is mouse comming?? dunno - i'll ask him just had to work on something =) ICQ says he just came online ten mins ago... Oke BYE Jeff!! Thanks for replying on my questions! So you guys are all chatting from the US? Seeya everyone *snif* its hard to say goodbye no prob no fear heh :) *poof* gone well some of us are here in the us *** No_Fear has quit IRC (Leaving) Bye all *** Addict has quit IRC (Leaving) where are the rest of you located>? mmmm mouse isn't coming US Sarf Croydon I'm in the UK - and you guys are missing some nice weather :) US: Kansas Sunny Helensburgh, Scotland wow - we are the world! =) * WSFG opens the curtains and, blimey, it acutally is sunny for once Portsmouth, UK without rain - unbelieveable! it's a sunny day here in NY city! Schu, what state? Missouri.. AKA Misery :) ok, how about I come over sometime :) heh :) yup.. Kansas isnt really all that inspiring either.. (I best note "sarf" is phonetic - S Croydon is S London, Brixton, Tooting and all that..) :) yeah i know Croyden - boring place No way! Kansas is like a big on-ramp to get to really good skiing in Colorado :) it is too :) and Missouri is like Kansas, but with hills.. yup. Croydon has been mislabled, we've got quite a nice town - and maybe soon city ;-) ..and what kind of place is called Tooting? We've got trams now, decked out in ads for Nescafe. wow oh.. I almost forgot to mention.. some friends of mine were in NYC for the CMJ (college music journal) convention and saw a GTA2 sticker on a few different stop signs... It's a yucky rat hole (I say that cos I don't live there mind ;-) *** chrissyb is now known as chrissyb-away excellent... we've got our street teams doing that all of the US Closer to home is the cess pit known as Thorton Heath, nice years ago apparently, not anymore. So take2 and all that aren't located in UK anymore? are you guys leaving the RockStar office and defacing public property :) lol Hey it is an original advertising campaign :) Id be more than happy to deface Missouri for ya :) heh heh... well, not us per say.. but we are paying people to do it! =) heh send me about 100 stickers gets the word about *** Mug_away is now known as Mugwum there are offices located in teh UK still Ill need about 9 million stickers though.. St. Louis has a damn stop sign on every block what's your e-mail address yep, I can cover the New Forest in a load of GTA2 stickers - bet the naturalists would love that who's? Do you mean naturalists? schu@tranquility.net soon to be gouranga@gte.net envionmentalists - whatever gtaplus@hotmail.com ! :) ooh... well... um... we want the stickers to go in places where it will cause people to buy GTA2 emails@svenlat.screaming.net naturalists are people who don't wear clothes. :) not necessarily piss the off... =) stop signs are fine by me :) We don't have many stop signs in this country Isn't that naturists? Just roundabouts thanks... Could be. Hang on while I find a nudist beach and ask. Look naturists, environmentalists - they all live in the woods don't they? maybe the bumber of a cop car if I get really ambitious sp? bumper even damn.. it is early.. isnt it.. Hehe schu, go for his uniform. They also call em eco warriors, ya know Swampy 'n' all that. you should put a free GTA2 sticker in with the GTA 2 game Im not quite that confident in my abilities :) i would frame it I live in south-east England, near london, I could do a lot of damage if given some stickers :) They live in tunnels under main roads ..and hand cuff themselves to lumps of concrete. I live in south - central england , me and mgwum could cause some real damage :) Cover the entire South of england in GTA2 stickers we actually have GTA2 bumper stickers too Are they all different designs? send me one ! send me twenty! :) send me 50 :) we've been getting the taxis and cop cars... damn.. nice.. heh heh That's one thing - I prefer the character designs of the original game, have you got any stickers with them? but you didn't hear that from me...=) someone needs to send me a pic of that :) a police car with a GTA2 bumper sticker.. that is classic.. I will make a GTA Mobile, put GTA bumper stickers on it and spray paint it with a big "Z" on the roof. the designs are the GTA2 logo Why spray 'Z' on the roof? Nobody would see it heheh Spray it on the windscreen Except the police helicopters. are there any pics of what the gta 2 box will look like? i'll see if we can get a pic for you of that =) pc or psx? Yep - but pocile helicopter pilots aren't major buyers of GTA2 are they? either Who designed the packaging? yes we do have them... Not DR? in the us... the art dept here at rockstar could you share them with us jeff? yes pleeze :) yeah! they're still being finalized at the moment Why stop there - why not send us the boxes - and maybe slip the cd in them as well :) ah right heh so shortly folks... hold tight! =) nice try sven Ive got an entire town of college students, prime game buying, playstation owning people :) d'oh very slick =) I can resell GTA2 for you if you want :) hey that's pretty good too sven.. =) were can we get a decomplier It works on commision right? i dont know what one is but i need one heh heh.. *** WSFG is now known as WSFG[away] what town of missouri are you in schu? Columbia one of the largest colleges in the state.. any where near st louis? Im from St Louis.. going to college in Columbia.. cool.. about 125 miles out.. i see... its ok for a college town I guess.. Klamy: Tell mouse "eek awk sproing. my old man's a biscuit." If you're away how can you chat? *** WSFG[away] is now known as WSFG oh haha don't confuse me next time Oh great, I'm cold now. Stupid UK weather Hold on, I'll just go shut the window * WSFG waits with baited breath aaah, that's better * WSFG L> So you guys are all chatting from the US? Seeya everyone *snif* its hard to say goodbye no prob no fear heh :) *poof* gone well some of us are here in the us *** No_Fear has quit IRC (Leaving) Bye all *** Addict has quit IRC (Leaving) jeff, have you played Driver? oops sorry did it a fricking gain . not much mugwum... but pretty decent game from what i've seen I have driver, its a GTA wannabe i dotn play it much right. what about midtown madness? I'm off, buh bye all. (before I hit shift+insert yet again). well, sometimes i get the urge to do a little peel out, but after about 1 life, i get tired, its pretty boring heh, and three of the four cities driver happened tofeature was New York City, San Francisco, and Miami *** WSFG has quit IRC (Leaving) exactly - midtown Madness. that's a former fave around the Rockstar ffice I half imagined GTA2 would be something like Midtown Madness / Driver I actually did up a file for the driver demo.. its floating around out there somewhere.. just added more cops and stu.. well,we'll have to see what the future hold =) I can't imagine GTA ever having a fully 3D interface - all the detail would be lost and so much rendering!!! You'd need a PIII - 1500 or something jeff: are there any special vehicles like hellicopters in GTA 2? BTW, what is that one thing that just sites there. it looks like some sort of recectangular car, you can push it and blow it up. holds.. i mean with the top down perspective - you are able to get such an excellent perspective of teh action taking place yeah exactly I mean imagine walking around in full 3D - you'd have to always look behind you and stuff There'd be jsut too much you'd need to watch *** chrissyb-away is now known as chrissyb i believe the rectangular vehicle you're atlking about is a lorry... (i think) you know you can hook it up to a truck and drive it around schu: what time is it there? 10 am now.. helicopters though... hmm... you'll have to wait and see.. =) not gone to bed yet? nope :) maybe secretly... lol -P haha it's just gone 4:05pm here ..back, mouse should be here soon. hmm. that might be it like i said earlier the tanks are REAL cool I figure Ill get getting lunch soon.. whats the point.. I didn't have to be up all night to chat there is one in a parking lot that is surround by a fence an done in a drive way nothing like stealing an army tank Oh that's a point.... and firing the cannon does it really hook up to the trucks? yes like can you get in one of those trucks and back up and connect? wow!, im goign to go try! *** mouseysquish has joined #GTA2_Hidden mental i believe so .. yes Whee! There we go! ok cool If you edit the tanks so that they do 40mph and fire for infinity you can overtake your own shots! (in original GTA) you might be able to do it on GTA2 ...actually maybe it's 60mph of course with tanks - you can run over everyone *** San is now known as SanAway * SanAway is gone... autoaway (30min) <since(01:14am)> <(l\on p\on)syntax> stealing fire trucks is also fun thanks for that inspring information Hey mouse! you can use the fire hose Sanaway i mean Is it possible to fire the fire truck hose in the demo?? I can rotate the hose, but not fire it. and be a fireman and put out fires Hi Klamy et al. or just get out of the fire truck and start fires Mouse!!! SCHU! can you explode trains yet? hmmm... not sure.. but once you're in the fire truck you should be able to use it by pressing "x" or whatever your shoot button isd The game atmosphere seems a lot like Syndicate Wars, the darkness and all, is that fair? that's what i've been toild' hey it does, doesn't it Nope... didn't seem to work... neither of the special function keys worked (the only special function the Left Alt seems to have is to scroll the screen around) the atmosphere does - but not the gameplay as much well you can blow upo trains with the rocket launchers And this thing with the gangs, are there drive in movies in GTA2? yup.. no nifty booming voice when you change weapons.. :) yey - that's all I want to satisfy my GTA playing experience - to blow up trains MiniGUn.. Electron Mace... Klamy: I can totally agree with you on that... the atmosphere is definitely something hat is superb, ad that I can see was lacking from the original. ahh.. the memories :) drive in movies? hmmm... don't believe so ..that was something that really knocked me back in SW you guys gotta use the tazer gun... okay - but we'll only try the tazer gun if you send us the full version :) looks like purple llightning shooting from your character - They had a tazer gun on The Bill the other day (a naff ITV comedy/drama) Mouse.. were you able to join this through IRC? via irc.playnow.com.au? did they - I didn't see that i especially liked the improvements to the flamethrower and r-launcher... less cartoony, very sexy (erk) The Bill's not a comedy like in Star wars return of the jedi.. you know the emperor shooting at luke skywalker SCHU: yeeess... i had to download mIRC and everything This kid, really into the XFiles and all the conspiracy stuff used one on a copper. *** Cone has joined #GTA2_Hidden um... sexy.. um...sure! =) Well that workd :) ..The Bill has that bloke in it, REG! ok.. C1 cant get in for some reason.. yes .that's comedy ;-) well done haha! im an art student, go figure jeff. ha! *** Cone is now known as C1` :) Sven_L> have you seen BBC2's The Cops? that's a realistic cop show. uh oh, hi C1 we need to do this more often.. its been a long long while since the last GTA type chat thing.. *** Mugwum is now known as Mug_PlayingDriverDemo klamy: i have! i have! Yes - did you ever see ITV's Cop Shop - I live where they film that And it's back on this autumn - hurrah hurrah! Muggy's quiet... Not sure about that one, drama or docu? when does this chat umm start or has it ended ? cool. it was that one with the junkie police woman wasn't it? drocu yep I know her :) (not that it's easy to tell the difference lately!) rather tasty mind ;-) Chrissyb> that's the one. yup. pretty good proggy that was. so, anyway... back to the subject (rolls eyes)... mugwum is playing the driver demo at the moment.. Sorry, our terrestrial cop shows in this country are entertaining - that's all oh, driver huh? spit. lol. ok guys gotta go... timesup for me... Jeff! thats awsome! we'll pay you to stay ok, im driving around with it on Cya Jeff what can i do now? Bye bye Jeff. - well, maybe I won't but.... Thanks for the chat! thanks fir playin! it was definitely cool can you give us any last words of inspiration? c ya Jeff.. No problemo mon amis. Or something. nice talking with you.. send me some stickers :) yes, stickers! jeff Now that you have our email addresses! me 2 me 2! heh... j/k. one last question. what can i do with that thing on now? Um... Gouranga!!!! :) Jordan, That GTAPlus 2 New Design Rocks thanks wow i feel so enlightened oh.. with the lorry? yeah thats sweet! you should sven.. =) thank you ? I want to deface public property in the name of GTA2 !!! ? when you attach the lorry im well confused now. mouse: i got my voodoo3 cya Jeff - thanks for stroking my ego about Nice One :) yes - cover up the naturalists with GTA2 stickers and send them in the streets it already attached schu, did you know about that lorry thing? you can drive around... and let the lorry go while you're being chased and oo!oo! i just remember, i saw the trailer for the lorry last night! it only just struck me. i thouight it was a vehicle, but i couldnt get in, so i blew it up. damnit. block off the cops oh sweet!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks jeff!!!!! thats what that was!!!! no prob... I blew it up too plug plug plug SCHU: We are the same person. http://www.gouranga.com/sprayshop/ so anything you guys can't get in - you blow up? I had no idea what the hell it was, so thought violence was definitly the best course of action :) Klamy = glory hunter..... j/k... It's aliVE, thanks Schu! :) np.. its all uploaded wow we learn so much from this game I just heard the BING noise BING hehe Brits don't hug heh My grammer has improved because of GTA and GTA2 no prob with the stroking of egos... We only frown ;-) A hug never hurts, Klamy. I'ma hugger AND BRITISH. At the same time. WWW.GOURANGA.COM/SPRAYSHOP!!!! erm - C1 - it's spelt grammar it's cool - as long as we got cool supporters I know ;) he he I'm too old, tricks, dog's and stuff like that, ya'know? ;-) mousey - you're a freak then later y'll I'm a cool supporter.... the could rest fridges on me, I'm such a cool supporter. c ya cya later hahahahaha! Bye! bye Bye bye Jeff. too funny =) im just a supporter :).. im not sure about cool.. *** chrissyb has left #GTA2_Hidden have fun... and i'll send you e-mails bye :) *** JeffCastaneda has left #GTA2_Hidden ohhhhh boy. so is Brian or Colin still here? they show up as here.. isn't this exciting? so where's brian and colin? Ooh http://www.gouranga.com/sprayshop/quotes.htm yeah. YEAH. I bet they've just ogt bots or something. .. v.showy-offy I'm afraid. I'm here, but pretty busy unfortunately. Colin's away from the PC he was using - but he's popping back on & off. heh oh That's understandable, natch. At least you have the guts to show up. And stuff. :) dude, did anybody else know about that lolly thing? or whatver it is? its sweet? So Schu - i take it that isn't your real name....... lorry? i mean its sweet! What lolly thing Jord.? sure it is :) yeah, lorry No Its Schumacer Oh. ah its a portion of my real name.. *schumacker eneschu? C2.. close.. but not correct.. schuuuuey *** chrissyb has joined #GTA2_Hidden heh, go to ascgames there is a little thing about schu aschuu ... bless you c1 even Eric Schumacker :) schuschu Re. Ins. Talled. Win. Dows. Klam. Y? I'm shocked.... still close.. but not correct.. schut heh it says sometihng like what you said when they asked you to make your site the offocial GTA site, you said "cool" It has to be SchuMacker sschuu or someting like that Schubert :) schutup heh.. actually I didnt say that.. they stuck that in.. schuuhcs Erk, yes, well, I plan to boot it off sometime in the next year or two (far too long that) schuaun hehe. nah - can't work it out. I think I'll stick with schu I looked at your Old college website from the old G! and it said ran by Eric SchuMacker or somthub OH! You added my DR thing Klamy? I'm honoured! thats what I did.. So your name's eric? http://www.gtaplus.net/whatasite/ could be.. Im not sure anymore... everyone calls me schu.. on the net and elsewhere.. jordan - anything else about your sites you want going in the newsletter tonight? yup, I enjoyed reading it, so I figured "it's a heck of a lot better than my lame work" ..and put it up. adam even He doesn't want people like me stalking him umm. no, not yet hmm.. Ill have to look at the old G!.. havent checked it out in a long while.. hey hey? can you start sending that newsltter to me 7? I do anyway KLAMY: Awww, shucks.... something@fenetre.co.uk - that's why I was confused that you are US c1: wheres the old G! - just for old times sakes no. im not ad jordan im GTA Plus jordan okay now I'm confused aaah there's two "jordans" he's just a wanna be of me :) Ummm so your first name's jordan I'd like to ask for some other input as well, seeing as you're a bit of an expert on all things mitDR. yeah, i really wish he would change hi sname Duno yes schu? oh sorry ~jordan~ Jordan = Jordan I wouldn't really say EXPERT!! Depends what kind of input, I suppose! Jordan - Adam also now MY mail address is gtaplus@hotmail.com ah huh - does that accept HTML? yeah oh - I thought hotmail didn't the old G! is no where.. as far as I know.. okay - let me have a look see if I've got you down ... Check out http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/people/students.shtml its in zip form over at Nice-one I think.. actually I have to send that to Mugwum again.. http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/people/students.shtml damn. i was hoping to remenisce <== Chacker Hacker mouse> commentary on the art work would be a great thing, what makes each bit a DR and your own personal likes dislikes. nope you wasn't listed jordan yeah i know Schu> I intend to put up a closed in Gouranga! original at SS I'll add you... it shouldnt be there anymore.. http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/~c674228/ ok thakns BAm Eric Schumacher Heh okay you're on GTA Thug joined GTA Plus gtaplus@hotmail.com I've got the home page and gfx sitting in my websites dir. thanks 7 don't call me 7 *** Mug_PlayingDriverDemo is now known as Mug_PlayingGTA2 i h8 that well. seven :) sven :( grrrrr :) yes :) :) Anybody else here got any news for tonight? KLAMY: Hmmm....... well, gimme a think on that, then, sounds ineresting. I'm particularly interested to know why DMA didn't go with them this time round. COLIN??? schu - do you get the gta enws at tranquility alright? yup.. oh Ill be dropping that address soon.. it will be gouranga@gte.net when I change my email over.. http://gouranga.com/sprayshop/mitdr/drepublic.htm - 'tis a fine piece of academic literature, even if I do say so myself. :-) http://pages.infinit.net/accessk/ check this out if you have the driver demo.. tell me when you change over then brb Can you get HTML format mails through netcom? did anyone else get an email from some stupid little prick reffering them to his alladvantage type thing? yes alladvantage Sucks Zod said that him along with some other poeple get a different demo v. of GTA2 *** Mug_PlayingGTA2 is now known as Mugwum a better one hello dunno.. netcom sux.. but asc pays for the address so I dont bitch.. :) brb alladvantage You need like 1000 Reffers to get like $5 thats a rip :) And you have to surf the sites they give you Schu: I sent you an email before asking you a few questions - it was sent in HTML format hi mug. Didn't go with who, mouse? sup mouse AllAdvantage is a scam hi mugwum schu Cyberthrill Was the biggest scam post the chat thing yet? I'm going to head off to bed - it's getting late. :) chat log or mug. night san heh, i just got up from bed Brian: Designer Republic. Thats was funny a h4ck3r Made a script so it set up 5 fake accounts and crashed there systems i posted stuff which i think is important, but tosh has the logs. ok nighty San. I edited the logs after I finished - they're ready for the newsletter I had them finished about 2 hours ago Ummm sven are you the one who runs that newsletter that rich pyke writes? yes - but I'm NOT INVOLVED in his wierd plans and all the accusations flying around Heh He JUST writes stuff Thanks to Malby and the other from PlayNow! for organising this... it's been great. And thanks to the DMA/Take2/Rockstar guys for coming along. *** SanAway is now known as none * none is back... generic back msg *** none is now known as San No he really Steals it Night. :) *** San has left #GTA2_Hidden driver on pc any good mug? I got a load of crap because people thought I had something to do with his Arsenal FC site, and copying sites and stuff He takes all news from G! and other sites then just puts it into Newsletter form yeah s'cool I know That's why I add my own material better than the PSX like? i didn't get it on the PSX (how do i send a sort of POPUP msg to someone?) Do you remember me when i ran that crap site GTANET and I had that right mouse disable Thingy Although to be honest, was all we could do at startup - because we couldn't get any exclusvie news Yes I remember that It was easy to hack into though :) Missed a few questions - what were they? Just disale Active Scripting like left click on the page then press the menu dropdown keyboard button is the demo officially released mug? HTML is no way secure by itself yes it was java i didnt write it though sweee-eeet "I took it" heh JavaScript - don't get them confused THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!! Bah Heh Heb Hab Re-Hab *** Tosh has joined #GTA2_Hidden mouse: did you find MM hi all! sup Who are you? heh cb: only the demo, natch... it runs shitty on my pc anyway, of course. hi Tosh Back.. hi Toshy apple jack mouse: you want a voodoo3/PII350 really Oh well, seeing we're down to the hardcode, if there's any questions - mail em to gta@dma.co.uk and I'll do my best to get them answered as soon as we get a chance to! im Tosh... how are you? Hey Mouse! I gotta go guys, been nice talking to you. Thank you, and good night! *** mouseysquish has left #GTA2_Hidden bye. *** BrianBaird has left #GTA2_Hidden *** Tosh has left #GTA2_Hidden cheers colin woohoo! Bye Colin by Later guys - keep up the great work... bye colin heh.. you missed C1 the comic genius in action over at #gta2_questions :) *** ColinMac has left #GTA2_Hidden Im still laughing thanks for a great chat and a great game what was that schu? So who is Malby then? hey, me and collin are schedualing a chat (too bad we were talking about it then the next day this ad about the PLAYNOW GTA2 chat pops up) some one asked for the GTA2 crack so C1 said yeah there is a crack, In your A$$ Im not sure why I found it so funny, it might be because of the time :) yup.. 11am :) heh Im surprised I can still type.. that aint bad actually... Lunch time now isn't it? just about.. Schu, you need counselling NFL Football Just 1 hour away :) ahh, time to get back to work on teh site C1 ? gather your stuff and lets go :) heh Over a joke? bit of an extreme reaction.. it's 4:45 pm here I gues I'll let you stay if you want :0 :) NO I just got here I want to chat Go on C1, listen to Jordan Is the chat over :) heh im his dad nice work c1.. :) *** mouse has joined #GTA2_Hidden No C1 - erm- the chat's in about 5 hours time. I doubt they did, but did anyone say something important to me? Mouse, you mean you didn't hear what we said to you!?!? Got cut-off, see. Oh no mouse, we thought you knew! lol - keep going C1 Mouse, I'm soooo sorry ARRRGGHHHH!!!! that guy is the biggest dumbass... LOL.. I have been up like all night * Sven_L picks mouse up And i forgot about the chat EEaRaGe :) EEaRaGe ? i slept in (even thoug i woke up at 7) Huh? #gta_questions and i missed everything well done, you've conquered 2 syllable words theres no important people here now. "the boat flipped over" - lol what about gta questions? What about Malby? Malby seems important Hee hee. Schu - you still haven't explained what EEaRaGe means C1 - send him a virus or something ;-) Yeah C1 - stop now I wrote a virus joke program about 5 months ago lol I can send it to him i got a zipfile full of them LoL The dude is running a Warez Fserv heh Who are you talking about? Who, Malby? In #gta2_questions No *** Tosh has joined #GTA2_Hidden nope.. EEaRaGe :) Sigh.... oooh - now I see who EEaRaGe is Im laughing so hard I cant even type :) TOLD you there was no point me coming in Klamy. didn't I? look at them flood in... im back doods Should we alert the press or something? I hacked GTA2's Unix MainFrame and Send a Rabbit in It tryed to Send a flu Shot but I Hacked the curnel... LOL:) WTF Does EEaRaGe have a clue as to what's going on? I think im slap happy its so camn early.. nope.. hehe nope damn early even.. I take it this isn't a crack then :) mwah mwah mwah :) what a wanker hee heee, this is funny! yup C1 - thats cruel no it isn't no its not! it'll teach him:) virii? virai? chrissyb - back orifice him! virii go on C1 - send him the back orifice patch! i'll get the git! :) ive got saran wrap if anyone needs it Haha, he just wwent "I'm stupid". No shit... give him whatever you've got C1! Mouse> but by the time you got mIRC the chat was dying down.. too bad that! i'll netbus him! Err you get the log ok tosh? I cant find my Joke Virus Program Someone send him one heh Klamy - Aye... I'm a bit annoyed now. i will :) Make him beg, make him beg This is sweet... ake the bait, take the bait... how do i get his IP? Number_6 wants to know too :) he keeps sending me messages :) ping him no whois him sorry Schu> are you putting the log of this up? me to Yup.. I havent stopped logging it just yet.. I will though.. there goes the BO Server ;-) Although I feel it could do with some cosmetic work before that happens, make it more readable. #:) www.3dactionplanet.com/gta/misc/gouranga/ God I cant even Play the game cause my computer sucks and there winning about how they only get 6 min it doesn't give his ip I would love to play for 3 seconds it should do Disgraceful aint it C1? tosh: errr, i have DNS Workshop which should get it C1- - i'm playingit on a p100 heh :) nice.. the timer still works :) ok, quickly snag his ip do a /.dns on him 63.11.86.209 63.11.86.209 63.11.86.209 I'm perfectly happy with 6 minutes - it just means you have to be that bit quicker and the game benefits from that.. EEarage ip = 63.11.86.209 gotta go cya guys later c ya bye all no bye! :( CB - are you sending it to him? keep me posted on GTA Lair :) what my ISP disconnecvts me after 2 hours okay will do schu Heh tosh: yeah, 50% bo2k patch see ya Thats why Im proud to be american nice one.. *** Sven_L has left #GTA2_Hidden can someone see if they can get his IP I want cable modem though 63.11.86.209 63.11.86.209 Im on ADSL at the moment *** DDP has joined #GTA2_Hidden EEArage ip = 63.11.86.209 cool so how did you find this room then? Heh *** mouse has left #GTA2_Hidden Dns is allowed on this server :) hi anyone who has got BO2K can connect to him then ;-) anyone still here from DMA? i have! Schu> BT kicked me offline for a few minutes, have you got the complete chat logs from _questions.. and _answers oh, and _hidden? yup.. but its still logging.. Of course ;-) hidden I can send you the answers log now if you want.. it stopped logging.. If you pass them to me, I'll see if I can fix them up to be a bit more readable. schu is still here? cool yup Will there be no More people from Rockstar or DMA here ? Klamy - im doing that already CB: has he got it yet? ..nothing worse than reading through a chat log lifted straight without any modification. I doubt it. so how did you find hidden then? definitly.. tosh: DONE! HAHAHAH.. almost done KLicq crashed .. I really did get a time crck for GTA2 run it like "c:\gta2\gta.exe" -NOTIMER *** mouseysquish has joined #GTA2_Hidden shut up DDP! Good For you Which ones are you working on Tosh? I was the first one to hack GTA2 so Bah GTA answers christ... yup.. you flooded its tankers :) he hasn't run it yet! so then is there a REAL no timer thing he's only fucking run it! i'm in! the little boat flipped over :) CB: how do you get in? LoL get in where? does he want a reboot? Did he Download the garbage File yet? wait, shit, bye hmm... ICQ wont let me send that log to you Klamy.. is this back orofice no DDP gonna run off now guys! B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! is this back orofice is this back orofice is this back orofice is this back orofice is this back orofice cya is this back orofice shit, wrong line *** Mugwum has quit IRC (Leaving) B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! ok B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! B Y E E V E R Y B O D Y ! ! ! ! ! ! *** DDP has left #GTA2_Hidden ummm wtf? where do people like that come from? c1: whats the BO port? Heh Bo ? I dont have Body Oder back orifice... *** Looking up 1Cust209.tnt50.chi5.da.uu.net - *** Resolved 1Cust209.tnt50.chi5.da.uu.net to 63.11.86.209 - Thats all I got heh, wheeee! Aww, he's goooone. did you take him out CB? I had my Fun with him :) is Malby really here? What did you nasty young men do to him? what did you send him? he is back The BO server in the guise of a GTA2 Timer Crack how does it work? you can connect to his machine and do really anything you like to it nice.. but you cant find his IP? Open His CD DRIVE I found His IP Heh You don't know about Back Orifice schu? Well, basically, they run a program at their end, and it opens a gateway between 2 pc's running Windoze, so the guy on the other end has complete control of the other persons pc FUCK HIM UP! Just type /dns There Nick You get Ip You Can shut down his Computer And open his CD Rom Drive Delete his files hi nice :) what are yo;u gusy talking about? Stuff. Girls talk, jordan... :) heh Giggles heh *** Addict has joined #GTA2_Hidden Wow, still people here... thanks for the logs schu what does everybody think of the new design sofar? C1 - whats his IP now? the question is.. should I leave this bit in the hidden log? its definitly good for a laugh.. CB Just type /dns Then his nick didn't work quick C1! 208.250.68.73 208.250.68.73 208.250.68.73 schu Leave it In, And are you going to post the intire log on G! i want to read everything i missed yup.. Ill post it all.. SCHU: put it as an additional part, a sortof epilougue, seperate to the main content. Ill edit up the q/a bit so its easier to read, but Ill post the originals as well.. Ill probably just post QA on the site in the news.. and then put up links to the raw logs.. You could do that or stay up for 40 hours and post everything heh what is he talking about now? *** Addict has quit IRC (Leaving) * C1` Pours A Nice Cool Glass Of Dr Peper And Cuts a Slice Of Pumpkin Pie :) ahh.. pumpkin pie :) C1 - dont start with the pie. just drop the pie, and step away. heh * schu sets the pie down slowly.. * Tosh rushes at the pie, grabs it and smashes mouse in the face with it! I can't Wait For ThanksGiving god good, now give me the molotov's... * schu jumps for cover Gobbel Gobbel Gee Gobbel Gobbel Goo This is a laff and a haff aint it fellas? he seems pissed :) time for a reboot :) Im going to invest in some stocks for Pumking Pie right now Then Sell On thanks Giving and get rich MMMmmmMMMM Have any of you heard of Invisible Hand? nope ..the Fantasy Share trading site? nope You get 10,000US$ to spend on shares. Klamy - its like that game on C4 mid morning If they come up trumps and you've invested, then you make a nice amount. I Invest in FootBall teams this Week I got the Buccs Reds Steelers lions and Rams ..haven't see that Tosh. http://www.myhand.com/ <== Lives in Vegas And my Dady Places My Bets It isn't a well presented site, but it's only in beta right now. Last week I won $60 :) I would of got $3000 For 10 for 10 but the vikingds wanted to syck klamy: its on every day, C4, 1.00pm I'll have to look that up. *** Zood has joined #GTA2_Hidden hello, um, Zood! zood hehe hi zood :) *** Zood is now known as Zod HAHAHAHH! - he was a wanker mouse what do you think of the screenshots ? Everyone is a Wanker for 5 min each day what screenshots? C1: is that a statistic? :) of my companys upcomign new game No ZOD: Hang on. But I think Im pretty Close good point was the room full a while back ? I saw the Matrix Today ZOD: Pretty nice... is it a beattemup? The story Sucked But the Effects were cool yup best part is it is fthe first game of it's kind it takes advantage of broadband connections first game to do that Yay or something lol what about schu ? sorry.. I was away.. what did you say? what do you think of the screenshots ? CB: 208.250.68.73 pretty cool.. what screenshots? can somebody help me with a little html? http://www.gtaplus.net/whatasite/ you will seee the problem heh its the search engine for you blind people that need a little hint thats easy :) the probolem is it looks like poop yeah how does it run? i cant get the bottom and top to clamp down Dont let zod he was bad last time i did it right last time Well the Bottom is the wrong size or you used DW and It gave it a differnt height Or your fuked up i had to change it so it would fit better No You Gave away the Url =P i didn't do that jeh told me himself :) um im sure he did when i didn't give it away nice design ;-) very eye candy ;-P well this url isnt going to be hidden anybody can see it wan My ICQ logs heh I dont care but can somebody help me? Your not Trustworthy Your a Evil Man ...please? thats a compliment heh i might have fixed the prob. nope *** Zod has left #GTA2_Hidden *** Tosh is now known as Tosh[AWAY] klamy.. log has been sent.. this damn thing! i cant get it! grrrrrr!! LoL Dummie you fix it c1 fix it now! heh Thanks Schu - just cleaned up the broken links in lyrics/ No Im bussy no your not klamy whats the url to your site? Jordan> It's www.gouranga.com/sprayshop/ Although I've gone and broken a heck of a lot of it.. fixing it up now.. klamy: what was wrong with k.co.uk ? -> [klamy] PING I dropped it Cos I was just going to drop out of this community, so shy keep the domain? shy = why (!) doh! this chat has really united the community... dont you think? this one not the GTA2_questions it was pretty cool.. we should do GTA chats more often.. i think so schu *** Harvester has joined #GTA2_Hidden Yes Its been like 3 years kind of chrissy.... i wish some people would hang around, making their presence felt (muh-g-wuhum)... and i for one miss mendel a great deal hi schu im back hello Yeah - Imust apologise have you been here since i left Every month there should be a chat of some kind yup.. I havent talked with Mendel in forever.. schu, remember my chat im going to set up wtih colling ..I've been trying to concentrate on far too much collin oops poops heh and haven't contributed enough. anybody have extra time yet? you're gonna have BIG phone bill it brings us together like one big ol family :) not me :) nor me :) i gotta eat breakfast still. nore me ;-) Im in the US.. I dont have to deal with BT... be back in a bit BT Internet's 0800 rah! oh no bs metered local calls.. nor me cept, I have been kicked twice. we live in the uk, we have 0800 weekend access for 11.75 a month, now... nearly up with you yanks now. @:-) What's your connection uptime like Schu? mouse: or something ;-) what do you mean? how long have u been in the net i think im on ADSL now so Im on most all the time... chrissy: or something indeed Well, on BT, as most ISP's, getting kicked off is frequent.. Has anyone decided to get out the demo's timelimit ADSL... snivvle, you git.. how long did gta2 take to come home? .AOL ISTR was the biggest offender though, not 10 minutes would go by without a dreaded redial even on local dialup Id only get booted if there was no activitiy for like 15-20 mins.. but I had a pretty good local ISP. schu: how long did i take to download GTA2? Thanks for the log Schu. *** Tosh[AWAY] is now known as Tosh np a few minutes.. wonder if they will release another demo with no time limit haaaalo toshy Klamy: i'm almost finished editing the logs 768k down depending on line quality and time of day.. I happen to have very good lines at my apt for some reason.. I will be away for few minutes A few minutes? wowser - and it took mine over an hour! Tosh> I won't /just/ edit, I'll spin em! I found out that its all CAT3 in all the buildings here which helps Im sure. Spin them? What's that mean Schu? CAT3? wait category three cabling? Tosh> yeah, it won't be a simple chat log tidied up, it'll be a /story/! I got the demo a bit quicker thanks to ftp.pczone.co.uk and FastFTP, such a cool resource. well typical network cable is CAT 5, or Category 5 cable.. most homes and places arent wired with CAT 3 but for some reason this place is.. Im not sure exctly what the different catagories mean though.. just like GTA is some senses. i suppose. or not. I must admit I've never heard of CAT before. i hadnt either until I had to mess with it at my internship.. hi back All I know a little about is T1/2/3 and 4 (I think it goes that high) who? me? I just know that CAT5 is typical network cable and that CAT3 is not as good as CAT5, but its definitly better than the standard wiring for a residence.. JUST LIKE gta. in some sense. or maybe not. again. Has anyone decied to get the time limit off shut up harvester SHUT UP! hehe.. dont even ask that question :) I'm not bothered by the time limit at all. i am *** chrissyb is now known as chrissyb[away] what "Cat"? why not "dog" i get to doing something good them bam!!! times up ..seems like the general consensus ;-) tough. its a demo. live with it. CAT= Category it stops you doing somes stuff *** C1` is now known as C1-Football oh yeah. that told YOU. * Tosh hits mouse why+ ? After trying the Screamer Rally Demo (old, I know!) which only gave 30 seconds - 6 minutes is a luxury. I must admit, after I extended the timer in the Driver demo it wasnt as much fun.. ..but I think that's too much said about that now! Driver never was fun Schu! what is that fserve crap that keeps poppin gup? everyone, come out of the gta2_questions room.. leave him on his own I had a good time with the demo for PC.. ive heard the PSX version isnt as good though.. Tried running over the peds? they won't stand still long enough! some mp3 program had time limit of 10 seconds *** mouseysquish is now known as mouse 4 come one, everyone out of there! klamy> have you got something wrong with your peds then?? hehe. ok.. im out.. lemme check the log :) It's a design thing, Reflections decided it wouldn't fly to have peds, erm, fly ;-) man that was funny Klammy, you should do a major update to your site and like maybe change the looks oh, youre talking about driver. you've had that foooorreeevvveerrrrr these files just go in the root.. right? what files? If Mugwum was here, I'd cite that as a reason not to overhaul ;-> its for klamy's site.. then again, he isn't here, so I'll cite it anyway.. booby forget it.. I just unzipped it, I see the directories.. whats for Klamys site? check out this picture some of his links were wrong so he sent me the reworked pages... www.gouranga.com/sprayshop http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg If Mugwum spent half of his energy on the content as opposed to the nth site overhaul and launch, he'd have a 1000 and 1 fantastic pages now, chokka with material.. lol im angry with mugwum, to be honest I've already spent more time than I'd ever wish on fixing links (yuck, html sucks) why? ok.. its all uploaded Klamy Klamy: we *are* working on content now come on, check that picture at http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg Thanks Schu, maybe I'm tired.. http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg : LOL! *** Mugwum has joined #GTA2_Hidden yep hello. hi * Tosh hugs Klamy because he is better than Azz Jello *** Number_6 has joined #GTA2_Hidden wasen't that fun jordan you lot still here? hi mug I'm back! err hello harvester hey, everyone check this site: http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg hi 6 Where you a winner? me? no. i don't even live in australia Have any of you seen Propoganda.org? (sp) Me neithre, a pity it was only for aussies yep nope hey mugwum.. did San send you an autograph? Dam Fucking RedSkins That picture at http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg is Bill Gates just like Adolph Hitler Stupid Ass Steelers 14-0 I lost schu - still awake? :( no sort of :) * Tosh give mouse some lovely chinese food still logging :) r0><0r hehe. Do you have a GTA page too Harvester? mmmmm. schu did u saw that picture at http://www.cnc2.com/tsgold/ah.jpg no http://propaganda.system12.com/main.html yup :) not quite as the Bill Gatus of Borg shot that I saw somewhere.. that's kinda similar idea http://propaganda.system12.com/Prop-90C.JPG is the direct image link brb Schu, did anyone make that GTA patch for RIVA TNT's? number_6 do you have a gta site why? i have Riva TNT and it works fine no, but I'll make one when I get my hands on GTA2 oh As for the TNT, GTA 1 doesn't work 3dfx can i join it then but tnt isn't creative's card. it's niviads I just made a time crack for GTA2 demo! nope.. Ive never seen a patch to run GTA on OGL or D3D.. it only runs with glide and the software rendering.. gvnb fucking Denver Learn how tocatch Punt Return FUCking Dumbass Buccs He touthced The ball Denver at the 5 ]\ hu... what!??!?!!?!?!!?!?!!?! Im going crayz :) heh stop lying Time to go load my Dads Shot Gun * schu ducks why? * Harvester ducks why not? * Jordan snypers C1, the red dot is on his forehead dear god... its almost 1pm :) * Tosh takes out Jordan with a crowbar to the back of the head \me shoots and watches C1 fall to the ground *** chrissyb[away] is now known as chrissyb shit schu... you must be stuck to your chair heh. Cause I have somthing called money On 5 football teams i just picked up the rear end of the truck ;-) * Jordan gets back up and kicks Tosh's crowbar and it comes back and hits him in the head and sticks in And Denver Just recovered a punt return cause the stupid ass buccs nope.. I stood up about an hour ago and almost fell over so I sat back down :) decided to toutch the ball at the 5 yard line denver recoveres *** chrissyb has left #GTA2_Hidden and they get a touth down * Number_6 Gets in the Z-Type and frags tosh * Harvester shoots jordan with gatling gun now I loose My Money and Win nothing *** chrissyb has joined #GTA2_Hidden * Jordan 's twin bro jumps from a building and pulls out a rocket launcher shootin Number_6's car and Harvester * Tosh gets up again and grabs onto the back of Number_6's car *** Mugwum has quit IRC (Leaving) Number 6> Have you tried the Glide-D3D wrapper? * Number_6 gets out of the Z-Type * Jordan with tosh on it * Jordan MWAHhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Im not sure if that would work or not.. GTA seems pretty picky about that stuff.. worth a shot though.. * Number_6 Jumps away just before the explosion I'd imagine so.. ..glideunderground.summat * Harvester shoots jordan's head off * Jordan shoots again and it its Number_6 in the back * Jordan 's other 2 twin brothers jump from a car and start firing on everybody in the chat room. * Number_6 Gets scratcht with jordans bullet its a rocket launcher :0 * schu jumps for cover and calls in an air strike... SHUT UP SHUT UP * Number_6 Gets in a fire truck SHUT UP Your All Making Font Of me * Jordan 's twin brothers get in an ariplane, go as high as it can go, and drop a nuke yes, were making font of you. * Number_6 Washes Jordan away with the Fire truck * schu activates his orbiting ion cannon * Jordan and shoots down schu's piolets * Number_6 Gets his jetpack on * Harvester uses light saber to reflect back Jordan's twin brothers' bullets * Number_6 Flies up ladeda * C1-Football Arms a Nuke And lets it Explode Killing everyone *mouse can't figure out those emote things, but if he could, he would no doubt say something witty sorry man.... your dead * schu noticed jordan doesnt notice the red dot his ghost is painting on his head and launches the nuke :) * Jordan 's other twin bro gets in a space ship and blows up the earth * C1-Football Tells Mouse to type /me then the message * chrissyb hello * Number_6 gets his Superbanana and accidentaly drops it Malby seems very quiet, has anyone seen him speak, er write? * chrissyb is rather horny * Tosh wishes everyone would stop emoting all the time * schu learns to live without oxygen and glides through space toward his deathstar lurking nearby.. * Jordan says he will brb * schu likes to emote * chrissyb has just found out how to emote * Harvester uses Concrete Donkey to kill jordan and all his twin brothers /me Hi * Number_6 Gets in his Warp shuttle * chrissyb is an IRC rookie heh * Tosh reveals that He is really God, and decides that He is bored of the universe, crushing it all * schu busts out the starched kittens.. who wants some? 8 I bet it hurts your eyes to read this me! * chrissyb [tosh wakes up] * Number_6 Gets away from tosh using a hypergate * chrissyb is l33t I think I'll offline now - sat here though lunch 'n' dinner.. Im going to make Some Flap Jacks Anyway Want? please * Tosh wants starched kittens * schu is an becomes an atheist to make tosh disapper * mouse Concret Donkey being a reference to WORMS, is he right? can you tell I cant type anymore? ..excellent chat though, mouse, schu, tosh, whoever, I command you to make this weekly! * Tosh yells "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" yeah... every sunday! just not at 5am :) *** Number_6 has left #GTA2_Hidden * chrissyb agrees with klamy then schu will never be asleep! or perhaps fortnightly.. * Jordan blows up the galaxy to use ye olde English ;-) * schu thank god I live in a different galaxy * mouse shouts "humping great arsecakes" fortnightly might be better * Tosh waves in agreement while trying to kill everyone in the chat room * C1-Football Gives jordan a Anal Probe more turnout * schu thank tosh rather we could get onto whoever runs these rooms at make a perm room though * Jordan blows up the galaxy shu is in before he can excape escape * Harvester gets supernova bomb from arthur dent and blows up the universe * Jordan takes the probe and shoved it up C1's nose 4erk, me time is almost up... if i go, i'll be back in two tics * Jordan gets on his fire proof suit * mouse thinks we should stop it all before it gets out of hand. *** Number_6 has joined #GTA2_Hidden tosh: i have been on for 2:10 heh.. yup.. ddfgh * Jordan says its too late mouse This is fun * Jordan we already blew up a few planets and galaxys I think Im going to take a nap.. I just hope I wake up before tomorrow so I can do my fucking homework.. heh i dont have schoo tomorrow!!!! yes!!!! * Harvester gets firestorm defense online c ya all later Im a Drop out So I never have School Ill ICQ ya the hidden log tosh.. Bye schumacher :) I may be stupid but atleast I'm not dumb. bye schu Im both :) heh bye bye schu schu bye shoe Session Close: Sun Sep 26 12:53:29 1999