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Thursday
- October 31, 2002
<10:30 AM CST> |
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PC
Vice City Previewed
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
I'm not sure how legit this
is so I sent it off to Rockstar for verification. If it is legit,
it is the first actual confirmation of the PC version of Vice City. "Officially",
Rockstar will only say that the PC is NOT included under their agreement
with Sony that made all GTA titles PS2 exclusives until 2004. That agreement
only applies to other consoles (Game Cube, XBox, etc).
They won't
say when or if a PC version will be released and they probably won't make
an announcement until a month or so after the PS2 version is out. That
being said, I'd guess that we won't hear anything official until December.
Just to make it clear, I'm not coming down on the PC version, I
just want to make sure the preview is legit and the information is correct.
Thanks to mrpink for tracking that preview down.
ConnecteD
Goes Live
<2:51 AM CST - schu>
The ConnecteD portion of ViceCityRadio.com
is live so you should be able to access the special content using your
VC soundtrack cds.
Tons
of New VC Cheats
<2:51 AM CST - schu>
//355 personally tested around 35 VC cheats and compiled them into a nice
list for everyone. I've added all the new cheats to the VC
cheats section. I'd like to thank //355 for taking all the time
to find, test, and send me all the cheats. Believe me, after copying
them from his list I can tell you that it was no small task.
New
VC Reviews & Articles - Updated
<10:30 AM CST - schu>
A
lot of new VC features are out, and even those in the mainstream press
seem to be very positive. I wrote this before I read ABC New's latest
journey into sensationalism. This has to be the most poorly balanced
view of Vice City yet. Please feel free to reply (responsibly) in
their forum,
my post
was cut off, but I got most of my points in.
Thanks to
zakk, Pietak, Jess, Steve, aD, John, and IdeoPraxist.
Slow
Shipping For Play.com? <4:30 AM
CST - schu>
Peter wrote in to warn all his fellow Play.com pre-orderers
about the wait they may be facing. Apparently the UK retailer's
default free shipping method is first class post, but according to their
site it may take 3-5 working days to get your order.
Announcements
<2:51 AM CST - schu>
- Happy
Halloween!
- I'm headed to Chicago tonight for Halloween so the next update might
not happen until Monday.
- I added
links to new VC Reviews and Articles to the VC
Reviews section.
- I just
finished reading Curmudgeon Gamer's first impressions. If you're
not familiar with loading games on a C64 then you might want to read
his update
to see what the VC intro screens are all about :) ... I never
had a tape drive for my C64, so the first time I saw the intro during
the preview I felt the need to ask where the ,8,1 was :)
- There
is nothing quite like tearing down the street in a jeep, then blowing
through a police barricade with "You Got Another Thing Comin'"
playing in the background.
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Wednesday
- October 30, 2002
<12:11 AM CST> |
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VC
Cheat Codes <12:11 AM CST
- schu>
I
added five cheat codes that were all confirmed
by multiple people. Thanks to Rob, Eliot, Jordan, 355, FiReStArTeRo0o,
Rvhsfootballplyr, and Gary.
More
Pre-Order Madness
<12:11 AM CST - schu>
I figured I'd post one more of these. I'm just amazed how accommodating
most of the software stores have been. I just remember back when
I was kid and the managers were always total pricks and watched you like
you had a prison jumpsuit on or something. Guess they thought I
was going to swipe that new copy of Jumpman for my C64 :) ...
Ray's Software
Etc Adventure:
" Back to give you a little report on my
visit to Software Etc. They told us to be there at 8:00pm to get the
game, and obviously they told about a million others too. The line wasn't
that bad, it was right down the hall of the mall. 8:00 hits and they
tell us that the truck is late and should be there between 9 and midnight.
They also announced that since we had to wait, they'd be passing out
stuff, giving 80s trivia questions, and those who waited till they got
the game would get a free Vice City strategy guide and a bunch of other
goodies. Unfortunately i had to leave, but i left my receipt and such
with my friend, i left, did what i had to do and went home. He called
me at 2:30 a.m. saying he was on his way back from the mall and was
gonna drop off the game. He told me that they got the games around 2:00
and began giving them out. Insane stuff there. So i guess i wasn't that
lucky to get mine 'early' cuz technically it was 10/29. Heh."
Trails & Other Stuff
<12:11 AM CST - schu>
I just wanted to make everyone aware of the Trails setting
in VC display options. Turning it off will disable the blur effect
but it will also disable a lot of the other visual effects like the heat
waves and that sort of thing. I generally play VC with it on, but
it's worth trying both ways. Off will basically make everything
more clear, but it just doesn't have the same feel with it off.
Oh, one other
thing worth trying. Try holding down the brake and accelerate buttons
at the same time :) ...
New
GTA Sites
<12:11 AM CST - schu>
Announcements
<12:11 AM CST - schu>
- VC arrived
at my apartment around noon on Tuesday. I was freaked out because
I tracked it in the morning and it said they tried to deliver it but
they never rang my buzzer and they didn't leave a sticker, so I called
their 800 number and they said they'd send the truck back around. It
turns out that the FedEx guy knows me a little too well and figured
I was sleeping late so he didn't want to bother me until later in the
day :) ... Anyway, I have my copy and I've been playing it on
and off since noon.
- According
to IdeoPraxist, the Canadian media is jumping all over Vice City. He
sent in a link to this
article on CTV.
- Rockstar
North updated their site with a few new VC screenshots in the Showroom
section. Thanks to Philip and hokaleeky. The new shots were
added to page 20.
- If you
got your copy of VC today you may notice that GOURANGA and other GTA
fan sites are mentioned in the back of the VC manual :) ...
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Tuesday
- October 29, 2002
<4:30 AM CST> |
<Top> |
VC
Day Is Here!
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
ViceCity should be hitting shelves all over the US today. Good luck
to everyone on getting a copy.
More
Pre-Order Madness
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
A lot of lucky pre-order people are playing VC tonight, unfortunately
I'm not one of them. Mine won't arrive until a little later today
so I'm going to sleep and wait for my door buzzer :). Anyway, the
best pre-order story by far was sent in by Mark Adams whose pre-order
came in late at because of bad weather:
"I
went to GameStop to pick up Vice City and they didn't have it, due to
the fact that the planes at DFW were all backed up due to bad weather.
So, as this announcement was made a lot of people left. Around
10 O'clock there were about ten people left in the store. I just
wanted to say that the Gamestop employees at Coppell Texas were very
nice they gave us free food, drinks,
and even a free mag for being so understanding and polite. They
also popped in the Vice City Radio Box set so we could listen to it.
The game finally did come at 11:45, I just wanted to know if anybody
else was delayed due to rain and how they were treated by the management.
Sorry if this letter doesn't make sense I am very tired I have
been playing Vice City all night."
I just thought
it was really cool that the GameStop employees held out until the VC copies
arrived and even gave out free food and drinks to the customers. I
realize that they were probably waiting for their copies as well, but
it's still great to hear they held out so long.
New
VC Reviews <4:30
AM CST - schu>
The first batch of online reviews rolled in today. IGN released
a truly massive six page review (stuck in Insider limbo of course). They
also gave it a higher score than GTA3, which got a 9.6, but nothing has
matched their bs score of 9.8 for Gran Turismo 3 A-spec. I realize
it's a great game, but I just don't see how driving around in circles
can compare. GameSpot gave both GTA3 and VC the same score of 9.6.
As it stands now I'm waiting to read any of the reviews until I
get my copy from FedEx and get a chance to play it.
Thanks to
Mike Murakami, Cal, Kenshin, and ganja.
Ted
Visits BestBuy <4:30
AM CST - schu>
Rev Ted sent in another report on BestBuy and it looks like some locations
will have copies out on the shelf later today. Here is his report:
"Dropped
by Best Buy today. The placard was out on the shelves, "As
Advertised: $39.99", but no games. I asked the fellow who
is apparently in charge of these kinds of things at the store (stocking
manager or somesuch), and was told (in a rather definitive tone I might
add) "tomorrow". So, I'll probably pick it up tomorrow
(checking in the morning and afternoon), and go get my $5 back for my
Nov 4 pre-order at GameStop (though I will be sure to thank them for
their courtesy anyway...they've got a great crew down here). Also, local
GameStop has several of the boxed-set soundtracks, but they "can't
sell them until the 2nd"."
NZ Classification/Pre-Order Report
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
aD sent in the following report on VC in New Zealand:
"Phoned
local retailers today, got release dates which varied from the 8th Nov.
to the 29th Nov. Baah either way.
Rang our classification office (www.censorship.govt.nz),
and discovered that games which their Australian counterparts rate above
15+ get rated here, this of course will include VC. It takes up to 2
weeks! to rate a game and it hasn't even been submitted to them yet.
Argh! So things looking grim here.
Sorry for all the exclamation marks, I imagine that you are in Exclamation
mark heaven now with VC on your doorstep."
Thanks to
aD for the report.
Kent
Paul
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
Jon spotted an article on Kent Paul over on UK.Playstation.com.
I think it's mainly a rehash of what is on the VC crime board, it's
still interesting nonetheless.
Announcements
<4:30 AM CST - schu>
- The new
shots from Gamespot are up. I
also added a new link to a QuickTime version of the US VC commercial,
along with six shots from the movie, on the first
movie page.
- THAguyINgta3
sent in a rather extensive ViceCity review so I posted
it in the forums in a new VC fan reviews thread.
- PR2005
was so sick of Habbo Hotel that he actually set up a chat room for me
:). Anyway, it's currently being tested, just click the chat link
on the nav bar and it should pop up. Right now I can't seem to
get the damn thing to load correctly.
- Some idiot
is actually selling
VC cheats on Ebay, and even bigger idiots are bidding on them. Thanks
to zeno for emailing me about this.
- I hate
to even mention it, but Raw316TNN noted that his local Wal-Mart will
be carrying ViceCity and should have it in stock tomorrow. Once
again, if you want to make a deal with the devil, call your local Wal-Mart
to see if they have it in stock. I do realize that in some towns,
Wal-Mart is really your only option, but if you have a choice, you might
as well save $10 and get it from BestBuy.
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Monday
- October 28, 2002
<3:45 AM CST> |
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GTA3
Receipt Busts Car Thief
<3:45 AM CST - schu>
IdeoPraxist sent in this
article featured in the Courier Times. The article is about
a car thief who was busted after leaving his GTA3 rental receipt inside
one of the cars he stole :) ...
VC
In The NYTimes <3:45
AM CST - schu>
ViceCity is featured in the Style section of Sunday's NYTimes. The
story is actually pretty good and gives a decent history of Rockstar Games,
and how Terry Donovan and Sam Houser came to be affiliated with the GTA
series. The only catch is that you'll have to register a fake email
address with the NY Times to view
it.
VC
For $39.99
& Other Pre-Order Details
<3:45 AM CST - schu>
ViceCity is in BestBuy's ad for this week and shows that it will be available
this Wednesday. They might not be the first store with VC on the
shelves, but at just $39.99,
they certainly have the cheapest price in town. Check your local
BestBuy ad for details. derek wrote me about this and says he'll
probably drop his Nov 4th pre-order and pick it up a few days earlier
and save $10. Once again, I'd annoy your local BestBuy for details
to see if it might be in any earlier than Wednesday. Thanks to derek,
LdyMox, Rob, and simi.
JWeb55 also
spotted ViceCity in the CompUSA
ad. According to the ad it will be available there on Tuesday
for $49.
Steve heard
from his local Jacksonville, FL GameStop that his store would not be getting
VC pre-orders in on Monday night. The only reason I'm mentioning
this is to emphasize that you need to call your local store to be sure.
Not all stores will have VC available on Monday night.
Erik asked
his local GameStop how they are able to sell VC on Monday night before
everyone else. They said that their manager is going to drive out
to the airport to pick up the shipment as soon as it comes in so they
don't have to wait for the overnight shipping to get it to them. Apparently
Rockstar has authorized some retailers to do this and release the game
early. Anyway, if you are lucky and get your copy on Monday you
might want to thank your local store clerk for getting it to you early
:) ...
ZMan's local
EB will be selling VC as early as 6pm on Monday night and will hold pre-order
copies for 48 hours. It seems Gamestop isn't the only place with
an early bird special.
Rev_Ted wrote
in with a few random pre-order details. Apparently Best Buy is not
taking in-store pre-orders so it will be first come first serve. GameStop
is currently only taking second round pre-orders that will be in on November
4th, however they will refund your $5 pre-order fee if you find it someplace
else first. Lastly, he found that FYE stores in his area weren't
carrying any video games so it sounds like FYE might be hit and miss,
but if you're desperate, still worth a phone call.
Sorry for
making it sound as if anyone without a pre-order is completely fu*ked.
That is definitely not the case, but I would still make sure you
find out which stores in your area have copies of VC coming and when they'll
be available.
GameSpy's
VC Preview <3:45
AM CST - schu>
Think GameSpy
is cutting it a little short? Why even bother releasing a preview
two days before it's official release date? I figured we'll see
their review in time for Christmas. Thanks to IdeoPraxist for the
link.
New
GTA Sites <3:45 AM CST - schu>
Announcements <3:45 AM CST - schu>
- I removed
the last two movies from the fourth movie page because Gamespot moved
them over to pay status and the links won't work unless you're logged
on there.
- I have
added all the new shots from GameSpy to the VC
Screenshots section.
- Anyone
notice anything interesting about the name of this
hospital? :)
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Sunday
- October 27, 2002
<1:00 AM CST> |
<Top> |
Vice
City on Gamers.com
<1:00 AM CST - schu>
Gamers.com has been updated with an all new ViceCity feature.
I already added the new shots a few days ago, but it's still a decent
feature with an excellent run down on the characters. Thanks to
Insane2757.
New
VC Reviews <1:00
AM CST - schu>
More VC review scores are rolling in:
- OPM
(UK) - (December 2002) - (10/10)
- OPM
(US) - (December 2002) - (5/5)
- EGM
(US) - (December 2002) - (10/10)
Check the
VC Reviews section for more scores. D
Ice has scans of the OPM UK review posted on NeoSeeker
if anyone is interested. Thanks to Ron, pitschi2001, and D Ice.
More
On EB PreOrders
<1:00 AM CST - schu>
LBhacker3k was eavesdropping at his local EB when he heard that they might
be getting their copies of VC in on Monday night. Once again, I'd
call and annoy your local EB clerk for information, and of course a double
check maybe an hour before close on Monday night couldn't hurt either,
unless your the poor sod answering the phone that is.
Jet3004 got
the "pick up your copy within 24 hours or else" speech from
his local EB but they also happened to mention that they'd be giving away
free strategy guides to the first thirty people to pick up their pre-orders.
More
on GameStop & Friends
<1:00 AM CST - schu>
I got another report in from Mark saying that FuncoLand is also requiring
that your VC preorders must be picked up within 24 hours. I'm fairly
certain that this applies to all of the GameStop affiliate stores (FuncoLand/GameStop/Software
Etc/Babbages).
Mark also
confirmed that his local FuncoLand is offering an 8pm Monday pickup on
some VC preorders. Once again, blah, blah, blah, check your local
store.
Announcements
<1:00 AM CST - schu>
- I went
ahead and added those new shots, audio samples, and movie links to the
VC Screenshots section.
- If you
haven't preordered VC by now you are probably SOL, but you might want
to give department and electronic stores a shot. I'd also give
any local music stores that carry video games a shot as well. Those
stores don't seem to be hit as much. Awhile back I got a tip that
some FYE stores might have extra copies on hand. No guarantees,
but it might be worth
a call. No I do not work for FYE, but if they want to pay
me for plugging their stores I certainly wouldn't be adverse to that
idea :) ...
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Saturday
- October 26, 2002
<3:30 AM CST> |
<Top> |
GameSpot's
Final VC Q&A
<3:30 AM CST - schu>
GameSpot's VC Q&A series draws to an end with a session with Rockstar
North's Leslie Benzies. This
one is a two page article on interaction. From what I can tell
it doesn't really have any new information, but it's still an interesting
read. Thanks to Zach.
VC
Soundtrack Box Set Pictures
<3:30 AM CST - schu>
Josh was nice enough to scan and send in pictures of the packaging for
the VC soundtrack box set. Take a look:
IGN
Again <3:30 AM
CST - schu>
Another slew of updates from the IGN juggernaut:
IGN
Answers Your Questions
Get over to IGN and check out the
results of the PSQ question and answer session.
VC
Economics - Part 3
The third and final
portion of IGN's VC economics article has been released.
The strange thing is that this article, contrary to the title, doesn't
seem to have anything to do with economics :) ... I'm guessing
that in typical IGN form they've posted the wrong article. It
is a one page article on the voice acting and basically covers how they
did the scripting, casting, recording, and editing . Anyway it's still
worth a read but right now it's stuck in Insider limbo.
The
Voice Of VC
Yet another
insider article from IGN. This one is basically an interview
with Ray Liotta. Not too much new information, but they confirm
some cast members (Gary Busey, Luis Guzman, Danny Trejo, Jenna Jameson,
David Paymer, and Lawrence Taylor).
MC
Cage on GTA
IGN did a brief
interview with rapper MC Cage on his favorite video game system
and his addiction to GTA3.
VC
Audio Samples
IGN posted two new VC audio samples yesterday. I don't think the
first is really a sample from the game, it's basically just an MP3
of a bunch of different hip-hop and rap stars paying respect to Mr.
Magic. The second is an awesome VC commercial
for the movie, Exploder.
VC
Commercial
The long awaited VC commercial is now available online if you haven't
seen it yet. You can download it from IGN (small
/ large).
Plugged
Lastly we have IGN's Unplugged article. They seem to have taken
their VC article from issue #17 of Unplugged and dropped it in as a
regular
Insider article. It's four pages long, but basically just
rehashes everything we already know. It also has a few new shots,
but for some reason they are all bullshit half size shots that IGN likes
to stick in their articles with no links to the full size shots...
Thanks to
Insane2757, Taylor, Zach, Andy, FiReStArTeRo0o, and Rob.
Another
VC Contest <3:30
AM CST - schu>
GamesDomain is running a UK only VC
contest. Prizes include five VC soundtrack box sets, five VC
money clips, plus a lot of other random stuff. Thanks to sniKsnAK
(GTA3.NO).
GameStop
PreOrder Warning
<3:30 AM CST - schu>
ACEGOLIATH went to his local Gamestop to check on his preorder and heard
something anyone with a GameStop pre-order should be aware of. Basically
it sounds like GameStop in-store preorders require you to pick up your
game within 24 hours of delivery or they might end up selling it to someone
else. Anyway, here is the email he sent in, people with Gamestop
preorders might want to read it carefully and check the store they preordered
with to see how they handle this sort of thing:
"Today
I went to my local Gamestop were Ii preordered my GTAVC 2 months ago.
I had a few questions to ask. Like you already know they are told
they are getting the games in on Monday the 28th from 7-9pm (CST). I
also asked how many copies they will be getting. Like my [email]
title says they are getting exactly the amount that people have preordered
before October 21st which in my case, just my store is getting more
then 200 copies. I also asked because on my preorder receipt it
says you must purchase the game within 48 hours of when the
game is in the store. Well I asked that and the guy said it
is in 24 hours. So if you don't go get your game before 24 hours when
they get it, your screwed. Well I hope everyone has good luck on the
28th or 29th whatever. Remember buy your strategy guide with the game
and get 20% off."
EB Shipping Details
<3:30 AM CST - schu>
Electronic's Boutique (US) has posted a notice
on their site about how the VC deliveries will be done:
We
fully expect to receive sufficient quantity to fill all of the pre-orders
we have taken. If you have not placed your order for GTA: Vice City
and would like to receive a copy upon its release, we urge you to place
your order as soon as possible as we will sell out before the launch
date. We will update our site when GTA: Vice City is no longer available
for launch delivery.
The day your copy arrives will depend upon the shipping method selected.
The most up-to-date delivery schedule is as follows:
- Orders
placed with one-day shipping: October 29.
- Orders
placed with two-day shipping: October 30.
- Orders
placed with ground shipping: October 31.
- P.O.
Box addresses: October 31st to November 5.
If
you have already placed an order, we will pre-authorize your credit
card this week, but will not charge you until the game is shipped. If
we encounter any issues processing your credit card information we will
notify you via e-mail. Early processing enables us expedite the shipment
of your order when the game is released on October 28.
Thanks to
Opiate813 for the news.
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Friday
- October 25, 2002
<7:20 AM CST> |
<Top> |
IGN's
Updating Frenzy
<7:20 AM CST - schu>
Insane2757 went all out and found every new GTA related article he could
over at IGN:
VC
Economics - Part 2
IGN has released part
two of their VC Econ article. This installment details some
of the main characters in the game and the role they play in ViceCity,
however, most if it looks like it was copied directly from the crime
board at ViceCity.com. I thought it sounded familiar :) ... For
tomorrows update IGN promises a "nice surprise" so I assume
that means one of two things. Either they'll be releasing their
review tomorrow, or they'll be covering a VC feature that I can't discuss.
Thanks to Insane2757 and Taylor.
IGN's
VC Q&A
IGN's PSQ
article will be updated today at 2PM Pacific (-8 GMT) so be sure
to check out their forums for the answers to fan submitted questions.
IGN
Down Under
This is basically a rehash
of what we already know. Anyway, IGN did a short article on the
OFLC's (Oh Fu*k Let's Censor - ok so it sucks, let's
see you do better in under ten seconds) decision to censor ViceCity
in Australia.
GTA3
@ Number 5
GTA3 came in at #5
in PS2 game sales during the month of September. Not bad considering
how long it's been out and with Vice City just around the corner.
R*
Welcome Mat
Check out the Rockstar welcome mat in this
shot of an IGN cubicle.
We're Number 2?
<7:20 AM CST - schu>
Nothing hurts worse then being beat
by Mickey Fu*king Mouse! Get over there, vote,
and help fix this mess. Thanks to Insane2757.
GameStop
Drive Thru - Open Late!
<7:20 AM CST - schu>
Iceflow got a call from his local GameStop with some great news. Apparently
the Rochester Michigan store will be reopening from 9pm to 1am on Monday,
October 28th, so people can pick up their VC pre-orders early. Anyway,
if you did pre-order you might want to give your local game store a call
and see if they are doing anything similar, and if they aren't, ask why
:) ... I don't know if this applies to all GameStop/Babbages/Software
Etc/Funcoland (they are all one and the same) locations
so get on your phone and check into it before banging on their door at
9pm on Monday... In fact, you might want to give them a call even
if you live in Iceflow's town because I cannot confirm or deny this report.
VC
Guide & Soundtrack Now Shipping
<7:20 AM CST - schu>
As many of you have heard by now, there are people out there with the
VC strategy guide and therefore all the secrets to the game. Personally
I think most of you will enjoy the game more if you don't read posts from
the guide. I've played the game and I don't even want to know everything
about it until I get my copy. Regardless, it's your call, but I
would like to ask anyone posting spoilers to please put a warning in your
subject and at the top of your post. For now, I don't intend on
posting any information from the guide, I'd rather find most of this stuff
out for myself as I play the game. From what I've heard, VC
Resource has a lot of details from the guide in their forums. Thanks
to ÐeltaBlast, ArmyBratMojo, and JackDaniels913.
I also got
a lone confirmation from Josh that he received his VC soundtrack box set
in the mail yesterday.
Another
Review <7:20
AM CST - schu>
According to to mrpink, FHM
gave Vice City four stars (****) out of a possible four :)
Announcements
<7:20 AM CST - schu>
- The black
lines on the ViceCity map pissed freshkitten off so much that she took
time out of her busy schedule to remove them. Here is the edited
map.
- 8th SnOOKER
wrote in and confirmed that OPM Australia did indeed give VC a 10 out
of 10 :) ...
- I added
one new movie, four new pieces of artwork, and one new screenshot to
the VC Media Index.
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Thursday
- October 24, 2002
<4:20 PM CST> |
<Top> |
VC
Economics 101 @ IGN
<4:20 PM CST - schu>
PS2.IGN.com recently posted an article that goes along with those new
shots. For some reason I saw the shots before I even noticed the
article and it doesn't show up on the VC article listing there. Anyway,
this
installment is part one of three and is one page long. Here
is the new information:
- ViceCity's
sport of choice is football and their team is called The Mambas. BJ
Smith used to play for the Mambas but is now in retirement.
Thanks to
Taylor.
VC
Reviews
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
I have two reports of VC reviews and it's already bringing in some great
scores. The Australian Official
Playstation Magazine gave VC a 10/10 in their November issue. The
December issue of GamesMaster
also has a review, giving ViceCity a 97%. I can only confirm the
GamesMaster review, I haven't personally seen the OPM issue yet. Thanks
to [psycho]logical and Blake.
New
GTA Sites
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
Announcements
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
- I posted
a short description of my VC preview visit to NYC. The post does
not contain any information about VC, just about the visit itself and
what took place. You'll have to scroll down a bit to the bottom
of that thread to find my
post.
- ViceCity.com,
PS2.IGN.com,
and Gamers.com
all released new shots recently. I have added all 31 new shots
to the VC Screenshots section.
Thanks to Lloyd, Taylor, Andy, Ronn, GTFR5000, hokaleeky, and
Wages.
- It seems
that GTA3 was among the titles removed from the shelves of that San
Diego Wal-Mart. Ron sent in an enlarged version of the picture
on MSNBC
and if you look at the left side of the picture you'll see the edge
of the GTA3 box.
- GameStop
has changed their VC release date to the week of November 4th for all
orders placed AFTER 2pm CST October 21. Any orders placed before
Oct 21 should not be affected by the date change. Here is a quote
from their page. Thanks to M Murakami and Mark.
"This
title is heavily allocated and we have filled out initial distribution.
Orders placed after 2pm CST October 21st, 2002 will be filed the
week of November 4th. Place your order now so you don't miss out!"
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Wednesday
- October 23, 2002
<6:30 AM CST> |
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Wal-Mart
Sucks
<6:30 AM CST - schu>
Wal-Mart continued its never ending series of idiotic moves today when
one of its stores in San Diego decided to remove at least seven different
game titles from their shelves in response to the sniper attacks in the
Washington DC area. Looking at the list of titles that were removed
it becomes blatantly obvious that the person who is calling the shots
doesn't know anything about video games. I find it ironic that two
of the titles (Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear) are centered around counter-terrorism
and defending against attacks like the ones taking place in Washington
DC right now. Instead they decided to base their decision almost
entirely on the box art. Makes me wonder how many DVDs, videos,
books, magazines, toys, guns, ammo, etc they removed from their shelves
(I'm guessing 'round about zero). I'm not sure if the list of games
on MSNBC
is complete so I can't say one way or the other if GTA3 was removed or
if GTA: Vice City will be removed. I think it's funny that after
browsing Wal-Mart's censored video game selection you can waltz over to
sporting goods and pick yourself up a nice rifle, scope, and some ammunition.
And why not pick up a gun magazine and a case of beer while you're
at it? I really wish Wal-Mart would spend more time concerning themselves
with giving their workers a living wage rather than worrying about what
a soccer mom is going to think about the cover of the Rogue Spear box.
No, they'd rather spend time stomping
out unions and supporting sweat shop labor.
The
OFLC Swallows <6:30
AM CST - schu>
I'm fairly certain that most Australians already knew about this, but
if not... Australia's OFLC struck
again and decided that it's entirely too difficult to make an adult
video game classification, and that they'd rather spend their time censoring
any game that might be appropriate for a huge section of gamers, the 18-36
crowd. I am guessing the changes to VC will be the same as those
made in GTA3 (basically the hookers that can't do their job). A
minor change yes, but one that the original authors never intended. Check
out this
petition for a new rating classification if you want to help out and
tell OFLC to do their fu*king job. Thanks to Cameron for the OFLC
article link.
Announcements
<6:30 AM CST - schu>
- Definitely
a 'negative news/soap box' day...
- You may
have spotted the new VC ads I recently put up. I've been getting
some email on them so I decided to create page with most of the new
ads on it, take a look...
- I'm still
going to give the VC questions thing a shot, but IGN's
PSQ thing will probably blow everything else out of the water...
Last chance to send in your VC question (ONE
per person please) that may or may not be answered to questions@gouranga.com.
- Michael
Moore has released a new movie that should interest just about every
gamer, or anyone who has ever wondered why the US is so fu*ked up. His
new movie is called Bowling
for Columbine and it basically explores violence in the United States
and dispels a number of commonly held beliefs as to why gun violence
in the US is so high when compared to the rest of the world. I
can't say if it will appeal to the under 18 crowd, but you really owe
it to yourself to see this movie. I saw an early screening of
it last week and sat right next to the guy who wrote the review
for Playboy.com so I felt the need to plug his review :) . I take
no responsibility for any minors that wander off the review page.
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Tuesday
- October 22, 2002
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IGN
ViceCity PSQ
<7:30 AM CST - schu>
IGN is hosting a VC Q&A type thing in their forum, check it out here.
Thanks to Insane2757 for the link.
Rockstar
In The Face
<7:30 AM CST - schu>
waterrat sent in the following email about Rockstar's Sam Houser &
Terry Donovan being featured in the November issue of THE FACE magazine:
The
feature they are in is basically listing a few individuals who have
tried (and mainly succeeded) in making the world a less pussy-whipped
place, I quote "free thinkers out there, mavericks, individuals,
creative... people who make a difference".
It's kind of a top 50 thing, listed at a respectable #18
"Car Jackers:
Rockstar Games
Sam Houser and Terry Donovan from Rockstar Games can trace their insane
riches back to one revelation. They saw that the interests of computer
programmers (orcs, elves, military strategy) weren't as appealing as
their own (hip-hop records, violence, guns, Goodfellas). So the mega-selling
Grand Theft Auto was born. Embarrassment: Their anti-corporate riot
game State of Emergency raised plenty of money for shareholders in Take
Two Interactive Inc. Next: Like CSI, Grand Theft Auto has moved to Miami,
for GTA Vice City, Pre-order: four million and counting..."
GTA3 In MAD
<7:30 AM CST - schu>
nick sent work that the current issue of MAD
Magazine features a bit about GTA3. The GTA3 part is in the
"Monroe" cartoon. Apparently the main character, Monroe,
actually goes into GTA3's intro scene. Thanks to nick.
VC
Observations... Again...
<7:30 AM CST - schu>
Yet another installation of VC observations for your viewing pleasure.
Please post any future observations in the forum.
In the mean time I'll try and compile all of the past installments
into one section. I'd add all them to the forum but relinking all
of this stuff would probably take the better part of a lifetime.:
- Agrippa
found a link
to a site about the real life version of Vice City's stubby
shotgun.
- If you
haven't already viewed the Maverick video
on ViceCity.com then you might not have noticed the plane
with the ad behind it. Thanks to Daniel.
- If you
watch the new Infernus jump video on IGN you might spot
the powerup at the top of the stair case. Not to be confused
with the health
powerup at the end of the video. I can't quite tell what the
powerup is, but Alex thinks it's a Rampage, while Slicey thinks it's
a hidden package.
- John thinks
that the apartment
building in this shot is the same one seen in this jump
video. It's definitely built off the same design, but I'm
not positive it's the very same one.
- Richard
is guessing that Candy Suxx is the woman with Alex Shrubb in this
shot. That certainly would go along with the link on the crime
board at ViceCity.com.
- Ronn spotted
a series of jumps on the rooftop in the background of this
shot.
- It's a
fairly obvious observation, but if you hadn't guessed by now, it looks
like GTA3's one-armed
Phil Cassidy has two
arms in ViceCity, makes you wonder if he'll lose it in ViceCity.
Thanks to Daniel.
- Kevin
sent in another email about the links between GTA3 and VC. Here
is what he sent in, "The preliminary story
in Vice City is that the Forelli brothers, the Mafia family that Vercetti
is a part of, send him to Vice City to take care of a drug deal which
goes bad. They reside in Liberty City. I'm not sure if this has been
mentioned yet, but one of Joey Leone's first missions in GTA3 is where
you have to assassinate "Lips" Forelli by putting a bomb in
his car. Perhaps one of the brothers?"
- Andy sent
in a series of comparison shots between the real Fontainebleau Hilton
hotel in Miami and it's close counter part in ViceCity. You can
compare the VC version (here,
here, and here)
with the real
Miami version. He even found shots of the pool in both VC
and Miami.
I did a write-up about other locations in Miami awhile
back if anyone is interested.
- Just in
case you haven't picked up on the fact that there are sharks in ViceCity,
Ryan wanted to give you some more proof. At the beginning of the
first trailer you'll notice one swimming
near the boat Tommy's in. It's circled nicely by the sun's glare in
that shot.
- As you've
probably all seen by now, the district name of that area Tommy is in
can be seen in this
shot "Vice Point." Thanks to wags and Fredrik.
- 8th SnOOKER
IDed the rocket
launcher as an RPG-7.
- This was
pointed out to me a long while back, but I can't recall who told me.
Anyway, if you look closely at the fire
engine you'll notice their motto on the door, "Putting out
since 1872."
Announcements
<7:30 AM CST - schu>
- Insane2757
pulled out a great quote from the updated GameSpot preview
that I must have overlooked, check it out...
"You can look forward to player-friendly options like having a
full map of the city that reveals all the relevant locations and main
roads, as well as the ability to take a cab back to a mission area after
getting busted or wasted during a mission attempt."
I can personally vouch for how cool and useful the new "cab
back to the mission area" feature is.
- I made
a slight alteration to yesterday's update on the new stuff at ViceCity.com.
Basically I wanted to clarify that not only does the clock time
adjust to your computer time, but the outside day/night cycle also adjusts
to your local time. Thanks to weirdokid99.
- Finally
found The Faint's
Agenda Suicide video ( QT
/ WM
). Been looking for that damn thing forever...
- ComputerandVideoGames.com
recently posted their VC preview. Unfortunately there really isn't
anything new. Thanks to mrpink for the link.
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Monday
- October 21, 2002
<2:30 AM CST> |
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VC
In IGN Unplugged
<2:30 AM CST - schu>
IGN's pdf magazine, Unplugged,
recently featured a Vice City article in issue #17. The article
really doesn't offer anything new, save for one detail. Unplugged
is the first magazine to ever directly mention something about a DeLorean
knockoff appearing in ViceCity. Thanks to ÐeltaBlast for the
link.
List
of ViceCity.com Updates
<2:30 AM CST - schu>
Forelli_Boy sent in a nice list of all the things that were updated at
ViceCity.com, check
it out. The following was written up by Forelli_Boy.
Crime
Tree Area:
- Clock/Outside
Window (time of day) synchronized with your computer time!
- Pizza
on the table. One slice left.
- VICE
CITY MAP. This time it's all an archipelago, with more islands. Escobar
International Airport is named after the GTA2 Industrial section of
the same name. Little Dominica and Bogota replaced by Little Haiti and
Havana, respectively. Other than that it's completely different from
Vice '97.
- The crime
tree is now complete. Tommy and Lance are connected on the Forelli's
side, and we know who manages BJ Smith. KENT PAUL IS ON THE CRIME TREE,
complete with voice sample. Now we'll know who the ponce looks like...he's
the guy who got pushed down in the disco in Trailer 2.
- New suspects
with media: Avery Carrington (video), Colonel Cortez (video/voice),
Alex Shrub (voice), and Kent Paul (video/voice).
Weapons Impound:
- Suspicious
businesses now include a discount coupon for a Machete.
- New weapons:
Brass Knuckles, Tear Gas, Tec-9, Flamethrower, and the Stubby Shotgun.
Car impound:
- Marquis
- Blista
Compact (RENAMED GPX! Therefore the Blista in GTA3 must be the Odyssey?)
- Tropic
(another boat)
- Sentinel
XS (An 80's version of the GTA3 sentinel, resembles a cross between
BMW3 and R30 Skyline of 1970's?)
- Maverick
(Helicopter)
- Caddy
(The golf cart from the Kent Paul postcard)
- Moonbeam
(Another GTA3 classic, retextured and hi-polyed.)
- Stinger
(The Ferrari Daytona, thus continuing the Stinger's GTA Legacy as the
ONLY car to have appeared in all GTA games except for GTA: London.)
ViceCity Map <2:30
AM CST - schu>
As you probably noticed, the map of ViceCity now appears on ViceCity.com.
I got a few emails sent in with screen captures of the map. I
took one of the maps and ran a color correction on it. Here is the
new map alongside the original Vice Map from GTA.
Thanks to
Goreomedy, phunkking, JCronic, Lloyd, TattooBoy,
and HomieBear.
Hidden
Shot <2:30 AM
CST - schu>
Linkin @ GTA Scraper
found a hidden screenshot
on ViceCity.com. The shot appears to have been removed sometime
after Linkin announced it.
ViceCity
Contests <2:30
AM CST - schu>
There are three different ViceCity contests going on right I thought I'd
go over:
Thanks to
MrPink and Linkin.
Australia
Bans Everything In Sight
<2:30 AM CST - schu>
S3KT0R sent word that the Australian government is on the rampage
again. This time their sights are set on BMX
XXX. Apparently they still haven't made a video game designation
for ADULTS. I'm sure this oversight perplexes just about every sane
person on the planet, you'd think in a full year they could make some
stickers that say R18+, but apparently not.
JCronic sent
word that a petition
to support Australian gamers has been started. The petition
will be sent to the Australian government to show support for a new video
game classification for adults.
FreeLoader
<2:30 AM CST - schu>
FreeLoader
has been relaunched with one minor glitch. For the most part, the
Free in their name doesn't apply because the better parts of their content
will cost you a subscription fee to download. This fee applies to
GTA, GTA London, and GTA2 among other titles. Thanks to Forelli_Boy.
Announcements
<2:30 AM CST - schu>
- Zakk sent
in this interesting
article about Sony's online adapter. Among other things the
article goes over ways that Vice City could have used the adapter to
download new radio spots and that sort of thing.
- ViceCity
cheats have been popping up all over, but I have no way to confirm if
any of them are legit, although I suppose at this point it really doesn't
matter.
- New artwork,
movies, and screenshots have been added to the VC
Screenshots section. I also updated the weapons list in the
VC Info section.
- A new
audio page has been added to the VC
Screenshots section. I guess I should change that nav bar link
to read Media instead of Screenshots :).
- I'm still
working through VC observations, hopefully I'll have something soon.
- Credits
from yesterday... Thanks to all the following people for sending in
information while I was gone: Rev Ted, Mark, Eggyroll, GTFR500,
Ken, Wags, Cy Kindsfather, Zach, BUCKw££D, Pietak, Joey
'Superpukkie', Simon, Street Punk Attak, Opiate813, Taylor, Br25i, Daniel,
Ronn, /\/\ ! |< /\, Lose My August, Ps2kemi, CaliGangstar, Forelli_Boy,
Isaac, Dodge, CpCaveman, Jeff, Thomas, Shannon, Insane2757, MRPINK,
Jeff, Richard, and weirdokid99.
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Saturday
- October 19, 2002
<6:00 AM CST> |
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Hands
On With Vice City
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
As some you know by now, both Tank and I were in NYC on Wednesday to play
Vice City. Not only that, but we were the first people outside the
Rockstar offices to play the final build of the game on the same day it
went gold. In fact, it came straight out of the burner at Rockstar's
offices and was practically warm when it went into the PS2. Currently,
we are both under an NDA, which basically means that we are limited on
what we can say. There are lots of features that are best found
on your own as you play the game, and telling you about them now would
just ruin the experience. I plan on compiling a short list of questions
(10-15) to submit to Rockstar. If you have a question you would
like answered, send an email with ONE
question to questions@gouranga.com.
Please include a short description of your question in the subject
of your email to make my life a little easier. I probably won't
answer any emails sent to that address, I will just compile the question
list from the emails. Before you send in anything, let me clear
up two things... No, you cannot swim and there are no children in
the game.
Last, but
certainly not least I want to thank Rockstar for giving both of us the
opportunity to preview Vice City. I also wanted to thank Terry for
making this all happen and Richard for giving Tank and me a great walking
tour. I'll drop a few details about the visit in the forums
if anyone is interested. Check out Tank's report on our visit at
his great new site, GTAVice.com.
GTA
Vice City is GOLD
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
Yet another update that most of you know about, but if you didn't already
know, ViceCity has gone
gold and is in production as you read this. Now, if we can all
just maintain our sanity for another eleven days...
ViceCity.com
Updated <6:00
AM CST - schu>
As most of you know, ViceCity.com
has been updated. This update features about 22 new screenshots,
a nice overhead map of Vice City, about 7 new movies, new weapons, new
vehicles, and new criminals.
GameSpot's
New Updates <6:00
AM CST - schu>
While I was away GameSpot posted a few new updates, including an updated
VC preview / hands on article and a radio Q&A
session with Rockstar that includes, among other things, two
new radio clips. You can find all the new bits of information
below:
VC
Radio Q&A
- VC will
feature two talk radio stations, K-Chat and VC Public Radio.
- VCPR is
basically a radio panel type thing where people argue over different
topics whereas K-Chat is geared toward celebrity interviews and that
sort of thing.
- Once again,
Dan Houser and Lazlow scripted much of the radio banter and commercials
you'll hear in VC.
- Dan Houser
actually listened to and watched old 80's radio and TV commercials so
they would fit in with the atmosphere. Dan and Lazlow also mentioned
that the commercials are the most difficult part of the audio to do,
and usually take longer than any of the other audio production work.
GameSpot's Hands On / Preview
- Gamespot
dropped the names of a few of the bands featured on the VC soundtrack.
These include The Psychedelic Furs, Mr. Mister, and Night Ranger.
- They also
confirmed that Dennis Hopper, Luis Guzman, and Miami Vice's Philip Michael
Thomas also did voice work for VC.
- You'll
be able to take motorcycles into some indoor environments, like the
mall for instance.
- Vice City
doesn't pull and punches and is at least as violent as GTA3.
- "You
can look forward to player-friendly options like having a full map of
the city that reveals all the relevant locations and main roads, as
well as the ability to take a cab back to a mission area after getting
busted or wasted during a mission attempt."
IGN's New Updates
<6:00 AM CST - schu>
IGN posted a couple new VC updates over the past few days. First
off, I just noticed that VC tops the
list of the PS2's most wanted titles as reported by IGN's readers,
but is that really much of a surprise? IGN also posted part
one and part
two of an article on VC's insane stunts and jumps. Actually
I just noticed that they are the same article, just with new movies added
for the second part. This article features five new movies but it
is stuck in Insider limbo for probably a week or so. Last up is
IGN's hand's
on article, clocking in at three pages long and featuring five new
shots. Once again, it is also Insider content. On the flip
side, IGN has opened all the rest of their VC
content, including their three part radio series to the masses. Anyway,
here is the new information from IGN's array of updates:
Insane
Stunts & Jumps Part 1 & 2
- As you
probably knew by now, insane stunts and jumps will be returning to Vice
City and they'll be better than ever.
- You'll
be able to jump off of hills, stairs, slopes, and just about anything
else you can drive on.
- Certain
jumps will require specific vehicles depending on the jump.
- Jumps
will be everywhere and will be integrated right into the landscape making
them tougher to spot.
- GTA3's
biggest jumps will barely compare to those in Vice City. If your
jaw dropped in GTA3 on some of the larger jumps, it will hit the floor
in VC.
- VC's currency
has been deflated to match the 80's setting so $500 will go much further
than it did in GTA3.
IGN's VC Hands On Article
- IGN played
a build of the game that was 90% complete, so some of the items in their
article may have changed in the final version.
- Pressing
R3 will immediately swing the camera over Tommy's shoulder so you can
easily see what's in front of you.
- Pressing
the start button will bring up menus that show stats, current mission
briefing, a complete map of Vice City, and of course audio and video
settings.
- New icons
have been added to the map and to the radar showing AmmuNation locations,
your home, and other significant locations. While using the map
you can use R1 to zoom in and R2 to zoom out.
- You can
save the game in your "home" by running over a cassette tape
icon.
- VC's cars
are much more diverse in handling and physics. They all have unique
weights, speeds, handling, etc.
- Motorcycles
mentioned in the article include street bikes, choppers, scooters, and
dirt-bikes. They even elaborate on a collection side mission that
takes place up on the rooftops, using jumps and ramps as a timer ticks
down. (I actually got a chance to try that mission out myself,
and I have to say that I did piss poor at it :) , but it was fun nonetheless)
- All of
the bikes handle differently, and are just as diverse as VC's cars.
- Escaping
from police on the back of a bike is a risky proposition since you are
more vulnerable and they are more aggressive. However, if you know
the map well you may be able hit a jump and launch yourself out of harm's
way.
- You can
do wheelies by accelerating and pulling back on the analog stick. Endo
/ Stoppie's are performed by hitting the brake and hand-brake buttons
at the same time.
- As you
jump you can adjust the angle of your bike using the analog stick for
a smoother, more controlled landing.
- When you're
in a boat you can boat-jack other boats by coming up along side your
target, hit triangle to stop piloting your boat, jump to the new boat
and press triangle again. Tommy will then yank the captain from
the wheel and take over.
- TOMMY
CANNOT SWIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- You can
bail out of cars and bikes by hitting triangle while you're moving.
Cars and bikes will keep moving after you've bailed until they
come to a stop or ram into something.
- If you
decided to bail, your passenger(s) will bail with you. But both
you and your passengers will take a modest hit to your health when doing
so.
- The entire
set of islands that make up Vice City are NOT open to you from the beginning.
However, the new sections of the map open up a lot earlier in
the game when you compare it to GTA3. Overall it will be much
less frustrating and you'll have access to the entire map earlier on.
- Rather
than having to finish all the missions in one section before you can
move on, VC allows you to take missions in new sections even before
you finish the earlier sections. You can then choose to come back to
those missions, or just keep progressing in the game.
- IGN describes
one of VC's missions, Guardian Angel, in great detail. After the
article opens I highly suggest giving it a read. I actually got
a chance to play that same mission and it was a blast.
- Tommy
will have more than the two different outfits you see in a lot of the
screenshots.
- The peds
in VC are much more intelligent than their GTA3 brethren. Rather
than just shuffle about, they will all react to you and to each other.
Police will chase the gangs and other criminals, peds will talk
and interact with each other, roller skaters will accidentally bump
into other peds, etc..
- If you
draw a weapon near the police they will open fire, even if you don't
point it at them..
Announcements <6:00 AM CST - schu>
- I did
not credit anyone in the news today because it probably would have added
another hour or so to the update. Thanks to everyone on who sent
in email, I'll try to find a way to credit you all in the next update.
I'm using this time to add the new screenshots and movie links
so they should be up soon if all goes well.
- While
I was in NYC a full VC track list was posted to the internet through
a miscommunication. Basically it went up long enough to cause
a stir and then Rockstar had it removed because it was never supposed
to be revealed before the game came out. I will not post the full
track listing before the game comes out and I urge other GTA webmasters
not to. Please respect Rockstar's wishes on this and keep the
list to yourself if you have it. In the end, your first experience
with ViceCity will be that much better if you haven't heard every song
before the game is released.
- The GOURANGA!
contest is officially over. Thanks to everyone who entered and
good luck. I will try and notify the winners as soon as I can.
I chose the winners but the prize count is a bit of a mystery
at the moment so it's hard to say how many people actually won. I'll
work on getting that posted next week some time...
- I've added
a Buy GTA Games link to the nav bar. Currently it's only linked
up with GameStop, but I will probably add links to a few other retailers
with prices, etc whenever I get a chance.
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Monday
- October 14, 2002
<3:00 AM CST> |
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Contest
Reminder - PLEASE READ!
<3:00 AM CST - schu>
A number of people forgot to include their shipping address with their
contest submission. As mentioned on the contest
page, I will not have enough time to contact you after the contest
ends so YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE YOUR SHIPPING
INFORMATION IN ORDER TO QUALIFY. This is rush job
so after picking winners I will not have enough time to send out emails
and wait for replies. If you think you forgot to include the information
with your entry, simply send your shipping information and t-shirt size
to contests@gouranga.com. Please
send the email from the email address you originally entered with, but
make sure you get it in TODAY. I am extending the
contest deadline to 6 pm CST (-6 GMT) TONIGHT.
If you don't understand the whole timezone thing you can use this
this site
to convert times. This
chart also might come in handy for anyone in the US.
GOURANGA!
Contest <3:00 AM CST - schu>
(Originally posted on Thursday, October 10th)
I have a very limited time to run a quick GTA contest. To be entered
in the contest you'll have to complete a GTA quiz covering all the GTA
titles in the series. Most of the prizes, if not all the prizes,
will be GTA3 related T-shirts. I'll try to get some better stuff
or some Vice stuff but I can't guarantee anything. For more information
check the contest page, and please read everything
carefully (mainly the part about where to email your entry and what information
to include with it). The contest will only be running until Monday
at 6 pm CST and winners will be chosen at random.
Burn's
VC Shipping Deal
<3:00 AM CST - schu>
Australian retailer Burn is offering a free VC pre-order shipping deal
for GOURANGA! visitors. Despite the fact that they are located in
Australia, they carry both the Australian and US versions of the game
and will airmail it anywhere in the world. If you are ordering from
the US, you'd probably still be better off sticking with a US retailer
since you can probably find it for the same price here with a faster shipping
time. In Australia, Burn has |